Kramer 412E

[TripleSix]

Sold the Kramer along with the book.
@TripleSix

Books are no good to me.

I can't read.

 

[Morph]

Stiff steering is usually the unit at the base of the steering wheel. Check kingpins first though, B&H hydraulics will sort steering unit for you , whitehouse for pumps, Kevin Walker for advice and used parts. Real shame JD have squeezed him out.
Most stuff on these is a metric standard, with a few bits ofVAG thrown in.

 

[Garydwall]

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How's this for a start

Is this the workshop manual?
I only have the parts list manual....

 

[forestry mechanic]

Hi my boss has bought a 412e and the brakes aren't working found one of the cylinders leaking so fitted new one bleed the brakes but still not stopping any ideas on what could be wrong and can you adjust the brakes

 

[JLLM]

Hi my boss has bought a 412e and the brakes aren't working found one of the cylinders leaking so fitted new one bleed the brakes but still not stopping any ideas on what could be wrong and can you adjust the brakes

Have you taken the drums off to check the condition of the shoes and if they can actually move?

 

[forestry mechanic]

Have you taken the drums off to check the condition of the shoes and if they can actually move?

Yeah they were stuck soladed freed them all up plenty of thickness on the shoes

 

[JLLM]

If everything is moving then it should have brakes, is there rust on the drums? have the shoes glazed hard?

 

[forestry mechanic]

If everything is moving then it should have brakes, is there rust on the drums? have the shoes glazed hard?

Everything is all good with the shoes and drums all got cleaned up there isn't much pressure on the brake pedal you can press the pedal right down and still drive but if you shake the steering wheel fromm side to side you get some pressure to the brake pedal but not enough to stop it from driving forward or backwards

 

[Nearly]

On our old 312 the slave cylinder was very short stroke. The shoes had to be adjusted right up with very little clearance.

 

[JLLM]

Everything is all good with the shoes and drums all got cleaned up there isn't much pressure on the brake pedal you can press the pedal right down and still drive but if you shake the steering wheel fromm side to side you get some pressure to the brake pedal but not enough to stop it from driving forward or backwards

Master cylinder? Don't think the steering had anything to do with the braking system on our old 412, had a 512 after and there was some funny hydraulic/steering tie up on that.

 

[forestry mechanic]

Master cylinder? Don't think the steering had anything to do with the braking system on our old 412, had a 512 after and there was some funny hydraulic/steering tie up on that.

I have been told that the steering and brakes all work off a diverting valve off the same hydraulic pump and tank

 

[forestry mechanic]

On our old 312 the slave cylinder was very short stroke. The shoes had to be adjusted right up with very little clearance.

Where abouts do you adjust the shoes up could find any where to adjust them

 

[Nearly]

Flat screw heads on the backplate from memory.
Can you see the adjusters on the inside of the backplate?

 

[forestry mechanic]

I found tour flat heads screw bolts inside the drum on the end on them are like egg shape plates

 

[Nearly]

To push the shoes out until they almost touch the drum.

 

[forestry mechanic]

To push the shoes out until they almost touch the drum.

Sound I will give it ago and see if it Wirksworth if not I will be back

 

[Nearly]

Might have to make a wide, flat blade out of some flat, high tensile, bar and bend it 90deg to get a handle on it.