You’re 5610 managed to lift a 122? That seems impressive! Did you have any weights on and did the rear wheels sink a lot? Did the front wheels spend much time not on the ground ?
Kuhn vs kverneland four furrow plough
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It had 540 rear tyres, so quite wide for its size and no sinking problems (our JD 6630 has 520 rears, weighs more and even it'll manage without sinking). We've never had weights on front, but as said the frontloader was always on. No problem with front tyres lifting from the ground.
Iirc the lifting capacity on 5610 is 5000kg.
Hey guys,
So I’ve been demoing the 113 multi master. And so far I’ve been struggling to match the front furrow up to get a smooth plough across the field. I’ve set the rams to the desired lengths using the threads and removing shims based on the width of the tractor tyres. But it still doesn’t seem to turn over as evenly as I would normally be able to with the kverneland. It seems that the front furrow isn’t cutting the same width as the main bodies, and I can’t get it far enough across without putting the plough bodies on quite a large angle, which obviously affects the quality of the job.
Any advice would Be appreciated from a die hard kuhn fan, before I give up and go back to my kvernelands
So I’ve been demoing the 113 multi master. And so far I’ve been struggling to match the front furrow up to get a smooth plough across the field. I’ve set the rams to the desired lengths using the threads and removing shims based on the width of the tractor tyres. But it still doesn’t seem to turn over as evenly as I would normally be able to with the kverneland. It seems that the front furrow isn’t cutting the same width as the main bodies, and I can’t get it far enough across without putting the plough bodies on quite a large angle, which obviously affects the quality of the job.
Any advice would Be appreciated from a die hard kuhn fan, before I give up and go back to my kvernelands
Sounds like the dealer that's supplied the demo needs to come set to the plough? Main bodies should be perfectly parallel to ploughing, and remain so whatever width front fur is set to.Hey guys,
So I’ve been demoing the 113 multi master. And so far I’ve been struggling to match the front furrow up to get a smooth plough across the field. I’ve set the rams to the desired lengths using the threads and removing shims based on the width of the tractor tyres. But it still doesn’t seem to turn over as evenly as I would normally be able to with the kverneland. It seems that the front furrow isn’t cutting the same width as the main bodies, and I can’t get it far enough across without putting the plough bodies on quite a large angle, which obviously affects the quality of the job.
Any advice would Be appreciated from a die hard kuhn fan, before I give up and go back to my kvernelands
Hey guys.
I’m still having this issue with the Kuhn MM 113 which I have just bought second hand. Ploughing at 18 inches. I have the plough set exactly to the stickers for my wheel base width. Outer ram has no spacers and the thread is 0mm. The inside ram is set at 40mm.
the issue is is that the plough doesn’t run parallel to the tractor. The land raises are not parallel to the tractor I’m saying. And yes the plough is 90 degrees to the ground. The points are pointing towards the unploughed land and therefore it it pulling to one side and the front furrows aren’t matching up due to that. The front furrow is set to run at 18 inches, the exact same as the other furrows. But yea. Basically I cannot physically get the main beam angled enough to make the landslides run parallel to the tractor. I’ll post photos. But I really don’t know what to!!!! And I’m not enjoying the ploughing at the moment. I have no clue what to try so any thoughts would help so much.
the last photo shows how the landslide is angled in comparison to the furrow. And the photo of the rams shows that they are set toa wheel spacing on the tractor of less than 130cm. The wheel spacing on the Massey is 127cm
I’m still having this issue with the Kuhn MM 113 which I have just bought second hand. Ploughing at 18 inches. I have the plough set exactly to the stickers for my wheel base width. Outer ram has no spacers and the thread is 0mm. The inside ram is set at 40mm.
the issue is is that the plough doesn’t run parallel to the tractor. The land raises are not parallel to the tractor I’m saying. And yes the plough is 90 degrees to the ground. The points are pointing towards the unploughed land and therefore it it pulling to one side and the front furrows aren’t matching up due to that. The front furrow is set to run at 18 inches, the exact same as the other furrows. But yea. Basically I cannot physically get the main beam angled enough to make the landslides run parallel to the tractor. I’ll post photos. But I really don’t know what to!!!! And I’m not enjoying the ploughing at the moment. I have no clue what to try so any thoughts would help so much.
the last photo shows how the landslide is angled in comparison to the furrow. And the photo of the rams shows that they are set toa wheel spacing on the tractor of less than 130cm. The wheel spacing on the Massey is 127cm
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I'm no expert on true line systems but it looks to me like you need to shorten the inner ram somehow ?
There's something very not right with your plough settings (obviously), so I've actually dug out the manual for my 121 multi master:
For tractor width 130, my plough (121) would need spacers in both the angle/front width adjuster ram no. 9, and the working width/turnover folding ram no. 10.
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I'm fairly certain there is a missing 20mm spacer on the end of the folding ram to plough fixing on your plough, depicted as No.10.
The working width setting of the folding ram has no spacers for 18", bit it should have a 20mm spacer for the tractor wheel width.
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Thank you for that. I have the manual for the plough. And I have it set exactly as it should be. Hence why I’m struggling so much. I’m glad you’ve also noticed that it’s not set correctly based on my photos though. I was beginning to go crazy! The landslide is definitely not on the correct angle.
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Aye, but the manual for my plough says you need a 20mm spacer at the end of the folding ram (No.10 on the pictures that I posted).
From your pictures, it appears that spacer isn't present, so presumably that's why the plough angle is wrong?
What is distance L4 set to on your plough?
Yours is a 122 right? Perhaps they are just different?
I think the packer would only make it worse as that angle of the landslide would only be exaggerated by the change in angle of the plough
I think the packer would only make it worse as that angle of the landslide would only be exaggerated by the change in angle of the plough
L4 is set at 0mm like the manual suggests
My plough is equipped with the offsetting cylinder. So distance L3 isn’t relevant because that part doesn’t exhist on my plough. Instead L4 is measured I guess.
Aye, but what is the folding ram measurement L3 when in working position? Doesn't matter if it's a rigid link or hydraulic folding ram, distances between pivots of the parallelogram need to be correct for correct plough angle