KV 25's or Super Hydreins?

[ploughman1963]

As above - I hate them. My son struggled with them for a couple of years (although he came 3rd at the Nationals and ploughed in the Europeans with them) but he learnt a lot more by taking them off and ploughing with a set of standard No 8's for a couple of years. When he put the 25's back on the second time he mastered the 25 boards as he had learnt to handle the plough without trying to fight the 25's at the same time.

 

[OGB]

As above - I hate them. My son struggled with them for a couple of years (although he came 3rd at the Nationals and ploughed in the Europeans with them) but he learnt a lot more by taking them off and ploughing with a set of standard No 8's for a couple of years. When he put the 25's back on the second time he mastered the 25 boards as he had learnt to handle the plough without trying to fight the 25's at the same time.

Very good adviceduly noted... I've a sneaky suspicion that's why the guy lending this plough (with potential to sell) has had a hard time using standard 25 boards. Especially as they are still like new! We'll see what happens regarding this then..

 

[OGB]

Why on Earth then, are 25's so sort after? in the right hands with many modifications, are they / produce the best work???

 

[ploughman1963]

Why on Earth then, are 25's so sort after? in the right hands with many modifications, are they / produce the best work???

Because they are the competition board from KV. Dont get me wrong - in the right hands they can do a good job but to get the best out of them they need the well known mods carrying out - plus a lot more. I realised very early on that I didnt like the style of work and could see the big drawbacks they have (mentioned earlier) so I looked around for an alternative. I knew the style of work I wanted but couldnt find a ready made board so set about building a set from various donor boards. It worked for me but not everyone fancies the challenge or has the time to start building from scratch. I would say Ashley Boyles boards which started out as 25's produce as good work as any about including the Mitchell Dowdeswell boards. Dont forget, boards are only one part of the equation - the ploughman still needs to produce good work - but producing good work is a lot easier if you actually like the look of the furrows you are producing!

 

[Howard150]

Very good adviceduly noted... I've a sneaky suspicion that's why the guy lending this plough (with potential to sell) has had a hard time using standard 25 boards. Especially as they are still like new! We'll see what happens regarding this then..

It’s an old story oft told. I got rid of my super Hydreins 20 years ago, concentrating on TCN’s. Got hold of some RWM‘s that were shed stored but light years away from being bright. Got them rubbed up as best I could with the discs available at the time. Really struggled with them, just making a passable job at best. Took them off in despair and left them in the shed. Couple of years later I found some brilliant abrasive discs, Klingspor ACT. Put the RWM‘a back on and after a good bit of work managed to get them bright Enough to plough. Soil polish did the rest. There is no substitute for this and anybody who tells you otherwise is somewhat of a fibber. the transformation was incredible. This works for any plough. There is no substitute for soil polish and not a plough made that will perform well dull.
plenty of practice and the plough gets used to you as you get used to it!

 

[OGB]

It’s an old story oft told. I got rid of my super Hydreins 20 years ago, concentrating on TCN’s. Got hold of some RWM‘s that were shed stored but light years away from being bright. Got them rubbed up as best I could with the discs available at the time. Really struggled with them, just making a passable job at best. Took them off in despair and left them in the shed. Couple of years later I found some brilliant abrasive discs, Klingspor ACT. Put the RWM‘a back on and after a good bit of work managed to get them bright Enough to plough. Soil polish did the rest. There is no substitute for this and anybody who tells you otherwise is somewhat of a fibber. the transformation was incredible. This works for any plough. There is no substitute for soil polish and not a plough made that will perform well dull.
plenty of practice and the plough gets used to you as you get used to it!

I remember ploughing at a very early age (around 10yrs old...different times...) at a playday using a fergy plough with dull and slightly pitted boards... a respected ploughmen tapping me on the shoulder telling me you should be able to see your face in the boards, and that you will only achieve that by the soil.

 

[tomlad]

@Howard150 hi re. the act discs is that the sanding discs u use with a backing wheel?

 

[Howard150]

@Howard150 hi re. the act discs is that the sanding discs u use with a backing wheel?

don’t use the pad for them. It’s hard and flat. They were originally meant for stock removal, not contour grinding.
just use a normal flexible backing pad. For the real rough stuff I use 36 grit. Finish with 80 or 120.
you might well get to a point where the disc no longer works. When this happens then go and plough with it. The soil will rid the hardness. After a while you can go some more with the disc.

 

[tomlad]

Many thanks

 

[tcn ploughman]

When I got my new kristeel tcn's after removing the paint using a sanding disc got a bit of a shine then ploughed a bit still a bit sticky
took it to a local beach where there was lug sand ploughed about an acre driving fairly fast after that you could see your ace in them never looked back after that