KwS cochise spring wheat

willy

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Just got a bit for potential home saved seed for next year depending on fert prices, weather and black grass.

I would like to drill it with my Claydon on 7 inch row gaps but I also have a vaderstad, so my question is would the vaddy be better for spring wheat with its closer coulters or will spring wheat perform OK with wider coulters.

Also anything to watch out for cochise is it as bad as milulika for ergot.

Many thanks
 

Flintstone

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Location
Berkshire
@willy - the recommendation is to have row spacing as close as possible with spring wheat due to it not tillering anything like winter wheat. I’d say the Vaddy is your best bet.

I’ve put in 240 acres of Cochise in the last 2 weeks. Another 100 to go in before end of Feb.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Just got a bit for potential home saved seed for next year depending on fert prices, weather and black grass.

I would like to drill it with my Claydon on 7 inch row gaps but I also have a vaderstad, so my question is would the vaddy be better for spring wheat with its closer coulters or will spring wheat perform OK with wider coulters.

Also anything to watch out for cochise is it as bad as milulika for ergot.

Many thanks
Watch it for yellow rust. Probably need half litre teb leaf 3 coming out. Then usual flag leaf fungicide.
 
Vaddy be best 👍, as said above watch yellow rust early doors & ergot , got some continuous cochise just down a1 from you (yr9 now) , just autumn joker & drill on heavy ground did 6.5t last year with very minimal inputs 🤷🏻? Cheers dh
 

alomy75

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I’m on kws chilham which may be similar (not sure). Drilled on 250 centres 11mm wide coulters and it did fantastic (8t) so I wouldn’t worry too much about wide coulters. But chilham is one of those late autumn or spring drillers so may tiller more. It was just the one field too for my seed for this year.
 

Wilba

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BASE UK Member
I was planning to drill ours with avatar on 25cm spacings, too wide? Wanted to try Chilham, but didn't seem to be much availability on seed
 

Spencer

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Location
North West
Cochise bushel here was 80 on 33.3 spacings with 5" paired row. Didn't look thick enough but was still respectable, thanks in part I would guess to the bushel. I am going to try some this spring on single shoot 33.3 spacings as a trial as I definitely think extra light interception helps..
 

Neddy flanders

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BASE UK Member
had Cochise last year alongside Mulika. stood well and yielded 6t/ha. Ergot worse than Mulika by along way despite copper applications.
did think a couple of years back that Spring Wheat was the way forward. now wouldnt try it again without buying a colour sorter.
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
Vaddy be best 👍, as said above watch yellow rust early doors & ergot , got some continuous cochise just down a1 from you (yr9 now) , just autumn joker & drill on heavy ground did 6.5t last year with very minimal inputs 🤷🏻? Cheers dh
What soil type is most of the land you farm and grow spring wheat on?
 
That particular block is heavy hanslope clay, not very well drained but we are slowly improving this, it’s a cheap easy system & doing a good job on what was v bad blackgrass with a view to returning to winter cropping at some point when flufenacet & maybe Atlantis etc will do a cracking job 🤞? It’s an outlying farm so works well logistically for us aswell ?
would I want to do it across my whole farm….? I don’t think so, although it’s low risk it’s not without its drawbacks?
cheers dh
 
Can’t get 8t/ha here spring wheat bar the odd exception. 6.6t/ha is much more the norm but you can easily achieve protein with 160kg N.
Biggest issue is getting the stuff in. Anything into mid March doesn’t seem to yield and getting it in early into moisture helps. Done the nice clay loam soil the last few days. Need some sheep removing to finish that off but can’t get near the heavier clay yet as we had 30mm of rain last week. To wet underneath and the forecast is only going to make it worse.
 

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