Labour want another lockdown

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
Good job for you Steve , what would you do if you were a manufacturer ?
Depends on what the job was - jobs that need you to be onsite, need you to be onsite. I dunno what the precautions are like though, when I was working in the hatchery, it was a bloody nightmare, colds went round mega-fast because of all the recirc air, can't imagine what those places have been like since COVID.

I don't think anyone is saying that people that can't WFH should. All the debate I've seen is about office workers having to come back in, which seems a total waste of time.
If, as has been found in a lot of cases, productivity remains the same or increases when wfh, the only rationale for getting workers back is to protect those companies with large real estate holdings - case in point: My other half is an international tax specialist for a telecoms company, they are being mandated back to the office 2 days, rising to 3, when the person she works most closely with is in India......
I think those companies will be outflanked by more agile smaller companies/startups who can see the benefit in not having office rental overheads and will be able to offer better salaries to lure talent away.

These "productive water cooler conversations" being talked about by office based companies to get workers back in are pure rubbish, people do not talk about work in the break room, they talk about what they saw on telly, who is shagging who and how manger x is a knobhead.....
 

bobk

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Depends on what the job was - jobs that need you to be onsite, need you to be onsite. I dunno what the precautions are like though, when I was working in the hatchery, it was a bloody nightmare, colds went round mega-fast because of all the recirc air, can't imagine what those places have been like since COVID.

I don't think anyone is saying that people that can't WFH should. All the debate I've seen is about office workers having to come back in, which seems a total waste of time.
If, as has been found in a lot of cases, productivity remains the same or increases when wfh, the only rationale for getting workers back is to protect those companies with large real estate holdings - case in point: My other half is an international tax specialist for a telecoms company, they are being mandated back to the office 2 days, rising to 3, when the person she works most closely with is in India......
I think those companies will be outflanked by more agile smaller companies/startups who can see the benefit in not having office rental overheads and will be able to offer better salaries to lure talent away.

These "productive water cooler conversations" being talked about by office based companies to get workers back in are pure rubbish, people do not talk about work in the break room, they talk about what they saw on telly, who is shagging who and how manger x is a knobhead.....
Unfortunately , working from home is seen by most employees as an almost holiday , hence the return to work .
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
Unfortunately , working from home is seen by most employees as an almost holiday , hence the return to work .
Don't think it is though - lots of office based companies seem to be saying that they have lost no productivity in lockdown.

As I said, the companies shouting loudest about getting workers back are the ones with large property holdings (who's value would plummet if they were no longer of any use). I have also seen a few pieces on how lots of middle managers seem to have found themselves with not very much to do and this seems to impact on their ego.

If you can't rust your employees to work under their own steam, you are employing the wrong people. The flipside of this, is that if you are measuring productivity by presenteeism, then you are ignoring the fact that it is very easy (perhaps even more than at home) to slack in an office if you want to.
 

br jones

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in our small village ,there are many who work from home,most have got past the same 4 walls boredom and productivity has increased ,most also go in a such 1 or 2 days a fortnight.would not like to be the owner of al ot of office space just now
 

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