Lambs thriving

[will6910]

Also what else is confusing me and making me wonder if it's the ground at home that's the issue but everyone Iv asked said it's nonsense. The lambs in those pics are mix of single and twins at home. These pics now are taken same time but they never grazed at home, lambed inside and straight to rented fields

They'v had less grass and no feeding of the ewes since they lambed to. Same ewe breeds and same ram used

 

[CopperBeech]

Its your ground at home Will, you've either got resistant worms, or something.

The second lot of photos look like totally different animals, the ewes look better also.

Ive seen your posts on here for a good while Will - as harsh as it might sound, i'm going to say it - both your father and your vet are clueless when it comes to sheep. You can't get a new father any time soon, but for gods sake, get a new vet. . . . overtime you mention them, they sound like an arse!

 

[will6910]

The only difference really between home fields and rented is rented has cattle on them more recent. Before I took it been mostly cattle for years. At home haven't had cattle on my fields for 10 years now. Iv had the same issue with lambs last summer to. Father said since this time all summer the lambs will grow sometime. They never did. Even inside intensive feeding for 6 weeks and dosed and never grew at all and still ended up selling as stores

 

[will6910]

The lambs at rented place to haven't even been dosed yet as they been doing so well never had need to

 

[GrannyAching]

Its your ground at home Will, you've either got resistant worms, or something.

The second lot of photos look like totally different animals, the ewes look better also.

Ive seen your posts on here for a good while Will - as harsh as it might sound, i'm going to say it - both your father and your vet are clueless when it comes to sheep. You can't get a new father any time soon, but for gods sake, get a new vet. . . . overtime you mention them, they sound like an arse!

You have your answer Will. Find out what's wrong at home. Has your father seen the ones on rented ground?

 

[will6910]

No he never be over there unless need hand dosing or moving but hasn't seen them since they went over there

 

[GrannyAching]

No he never be over there unless need hand dosing or moving but hasn't seen them since they went over there

Maybe get him over there - mind there's none so blind as will not see - treat him gently as you can. (God families!)

Edit - same stocking rates? There is the odd one in your home group that looks as good as the away but like you say too few.

 

[will6910]

Il kidnap him and take him over..[emoji106] next question, in theory, looks like it's home ground that's the issue. What is the likely outcome for how to solve the situation ? If it's resistant and fec show up or bloods is it just case of changing doses or is there somethjnf to ground id need to do? I was told before to introducing cattle into rotation again may help?

 

[GrannyAching]

Back to bloods and fecs and a supportive vet. No point introducing cattle if you are just going to end up with them under performing, too.

 

[will6910]

Stocking rate pretty similar between both places. Over there is wetter more rushy ground to so if anythjnf ud think it wouldn't be as good for lambs

 

[Razor8]

Sheep will always do well for awhile on cattle ground but shouldn't be a huge difference

Can you tell us what products you've given lambs so far this year and what ages??

Thinking back can it really be a worm issue either. If ewes scanned badly it was hardly worms that caused it

 

[tepapa]

Id fec test for worms and if cocci present and blood test for trace elements. It'll be something like cocci holding lambs back or cobalt deficiency at home farm.

 

[will6910]

Lambs been dosed once with panacur. Bad scan was down to fluke. Ewes were resistant to fluke dose I used

 

[scottish-lleyn]

You need to get a decent vet involved do some tests and maybe bury your father to the neck in hen shite for a few days and see if he changes his tune. Every question you have asked in the past could be helped by a decent vet but yours sound like an usless lazy tit. Have you any big sheep units near you are they using the same vet.?

 

[Bones]

You might need to go to park lands vets will,, think there is one in aughnacloy, don't know about Omagh.

 

[will6910]

Most big sheep men near by are the kind of if it needs a vet shoot it method. We use parklands vet for the hens. They'v a sheep specialist tho as far as I know. Always tempted to inquire but it'l be a lot of money even to call out. 1 vet came for a check on the hens and charged £300 just to come here

 

[AvonValleyFarmer]

Most big sheep men near by are the kind of if it needs a vet shoot it method. We use parklands vet for the hens. They'v a sheep specialist tho as far as I know. Always tempted to inquire but it'l be a lot of money even to call out. 1 vet came for a check on the hens and charged £300 just to come here

That does seem steep just for a visit but if I were you I'd bite the bullet and pay for the vet. Could be the best money you've spent so far.

 

[will6910]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking now to. Cheers

 

[Moors Lad]

Panacur must be a "white" wormer - fair chance of resistance problems with this type - have you not thought of using a newer type ? I`d be VERY worried if I was putting all my faith in a white wormer.

 

[Big_D]

Hi will definitely worth checking for coccidiosis in first instance as others have said. Shouldn't cost much as vet just has to look at dung sample under microscope. Be a good one to rule out before looking at wormer resistance or deficiencies