LAMMA cancelled

[spanners and hammers]

i remember when we use to show machinery at all the shows years gone by ,,did the whole summer ,,, royal norfolk ,harrogate,,, bath west ,, east of england,,,etc ,,, they all priced the stands up and up every year till they got all the machinery out and turned them into country fairs,,, it came clear they wanted us out

 

[Tarw Coch]

lincolnshire agri machinery manufactures show ,,,,,,,,a small local show that let local people see small and mid sized local companies ,,,, getting greedy and trying to turn it into ,,, the uk agri come from anywhere show ,,, oh but its still in a field under a sheet ,,,, is maybe where the this all started to not work and maybe should have been addressed then

Did LAMMA set out to do that or is it just the way things moved after the demise of Smithfield and perhaps to a lesser extent, the Royal?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Some shows even give the tyre kickers 'free' red buckets to carry around, so that everyone else can spot the 'freeloading tourists' from 50 yards and hide the sandwiches .

£25 entry = no 'free bucket' rubber necking grockles, win win

I don't believe that for one minute, shows like the Royal Welsh charge and attract plenty who go for the whole week with the primary intention of having a pish up, I believe the highland is the same. Surely having a "dry" show with no alcohol at a time of year when the weather isn't the best wouldn't attract too many of that sort, only those with an interest in the industry.
I wonder if LAMMA will be an alcohol free show next year, I have already heard it suggested it will be much better as there will be bars and can be got to by train.

 

[its.... only me]

I ve heard that some people got into the show yesterday and looked around is that true

Yes

 

[nick...]

The plantworx show which alternates with hillhead,which is a quarrying show was one of the best shows I’ve ever been to.think it was may or June last year and it was simply brilliant.was a dry show and there was fantastic hospitality from every stand.lots of machines and attachments to see and try out if you wanted too.good deals on all types of things too.unfortuantly it rained on set up day and the first day was wet and muddy under foot but not a problem really.it was worse on day two but as with Lamma the weather can’t be guaranteed even in the summer.it was held at bruntingthorpe and the show was held on a large grass strip between two massive runways where cars were parked.easy to get to aswell.with all the county ag shows the farming element has got less and less so less dealers to sell and show their products.as the organisers need the visitors they have all types of stalls selling everything not associated with farming.the Norfolk show was probably 2/3 ag based when I was a kid but now probably less than 5% is farm based.guess it’s just a sign of the times
Nick...

 

[Tarw Coch]

I ve heard that some people got into the show yesterday and looked around is that true

Those of us who got there early were let in for breakfast and then into hall 1 adjacent to the entrance whilst they evaluated the situation outside.
I believe at some point they shut the gates behind us allowing no more in as it wasn't particularly crowded in there. It would be approx 10.30 when they announced the show was off and we were asked to leave although those on stands were allowed to go on site. It might have been possible to blag your way past security although from what I saw they were questioning one group who to my mind were obviously reps and you would have needed to be in early to get that far. As we were coming out security wouldn't let anyone in through the main gate without high vis clothing. We did spot a couple of lads heading in in high vis who we suspect were farmers going for a nosey, and if we'd had high vis jackets with us there's no doubt we'd have done the same.

I'm not convinced they did the right thing cancelling it, by daylight the weather was at best breezy with wind speed dropping and sun shinning. I realise there was extensive damage to hall 7 and possibly some other stands but from what we could see through the windows there was only a few flag poles over and a few things scattered by the wind, the sort of things that could be sorted in a matter of minutes by staff on stands. Obviously hall7 and possibly some other stands would need to have been cordoned off but they didn't seem short of security around there to sort that out.
Had wind speeds remained high I could understand the concerns over safety but as it was the risk must have been extremely low.

 

[spanners and hammers]

they knew the wind was coming perhaps at 5 pm on weds if they had made anouncements and came and saw the stands and told them to clear up some of the loose stuff and battern down the hatches a bit till the morning ,, if mite of helped as most of what i saw damaged was display boards and leaflets blown about ,,, they did not help themselves ,, and now has just cause a lot of bad press and feeling

 

[Tarw Coch]

they knew the wind was coming perhaps at 5 pm on weds if they had made anouncements and came and saw the stands and told them to clear up some of the loose stuff and battern down the hatches a bit till the morning ,, if mite of helped as most of what i saw damaged was display boards and leaflets blown about ,,, they did not help themselves ,, and now has just cause a lot of bad press and feeling

Absolutely. Of course that probably wouldn't have prevented the damage to hall 7 and possibly others but as I said earlier, with the weather being relatively nice on Thursday the show could have gone on with some areas cordoned off, The extreme wind had passed.

 

[spanners and hammers]

there is a large stock of temp fencing on site to use

 

[james ds]

Have you not read the other thread about Lamma moving to the NEC and the prices some manufacturers have been quoted for stands?

How could they have been quoted already . The applications are not out yet.

 

[Shutesy]

How could they have been quoted already . The applications are not out yet.

Im only stating what I have seen on other threads. Theres obviously been some information put out for people to be able to state there will be a price increase.

 

[Pint]

Can't see the downsides.
The larger stands like Agco , New Holland I'm sure will save. Those marquee things they had at Lamma must cost a fair bit plus heating . Don't have that the NEC just drive kit in , set our your stall job done.
Christ it's got to be easier for everyone from a logistical point of view.

 

[Iben]

wasn't there last year personally but I think all the big boys still do the royal highland in Edinburgh for 4 days in june 21st-24th this year

As I said in another thread, Edinburgh is where the new lamma show should be, could stay in January. Perfect sight with indoors and outdoors areas, will be cheaper than NEC. Right beside airport with plenty cheap flights available, or train to Edinburgh and get the tram out to showground.

I may be a little biased, but it adds up.

 

[Pint]

As I said in another thread, Edinburgh is where the new lamma show should be, could stay in January. Perfect sight with indoors and outdoors areas, will be cheaper than NEC. Right beside airport with plenty cheap flights available, or train to Edinburgh and get the tram out to showground.

I may be a little biased, but it adds up.

Could call it Scamma

 

[renewablejohn]

If LAMMA really want a solution then they should consider a biennial show with the Forestry APF at Ragley Hall in the midlands but with a Sept date. If you want to see a well organised event then attend the Forestry show this year. Would then give plenty of time to organise a Lamma event for 2019. Might even be able to organise cultivation and harvest areas if the speak nicely to the Ragley estate.

 

[mo!]

If LAMMA really want a solution then they should consider a biennial show with the Forestry APF at Ragley Hall in the midlands but with a Sept date. If you want to see a well organised event then attend the Forestry show this year. Would then give plenty of time to organise a Lamma event for 2019. Might even be able to organise cultivation and harvest areas if the speak nicely to the Ragley estate.

September? I'm sure there's something happening in the farming calendar around that time..?

 

[spanners and hammers]

not if it keeps raining

 

[Farma Parma]

What !!!!! An agricultural show in June !!

It has to be January when no one is too busy !!

I can confirm there was no empty spaces at 2017's Highland show & there was pretty much every common
shade of colour & dif branded machine theres out there in most UK Ag dealers yards
some of the scottish dealers support the makers at the highland.

 

[renewablejohn]

September? I'm sure there's something happening in the farming calendar around that time..?

Thought everyone was sat around moaning about the weather this year. Would have been a good day out especially if you could compare real performance in the field. If you cannot afford a day off in peak harvest then I think your sailing a bit close to the wind. If it was a 4 day show there is bound to be a day when the weather is rubbish.

 

[Drillman]

September? I'm sure there's something happening in the farming calendar around that time..?

Not round here. Farming was rained off in sept 2017.