Lanark texel sales, today.

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Procters' website states that they have 80 ewes and have sold to a top of 16k gns for male and 7k for female. Assuming that they paid a third of the consortium price, and put over all their flock (a gamble, I'd say), then it will have cost them almost two grand a time. Sure, some might get sold as straws, but it's still a tricky one to stack up on economic grounds. It's not like you can sell 'Double DIamond' shirts for £30 a time to a million fans in another country...

The merchandising has already started....

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Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
not a very good analogy , the commercial world wants / needs reg turners , wouldnt want william turner to paint my factory cost a fortune , and all your doing is encouraging people to breed something that p$$s about and takes 4 or 5 years to paint your house .
When i first started in sheep i always read the various reports , used to make me laugh seeing blackface rams making 30, 000 then seeing market average of £125 lol , I realised then not to look at the headlines .

whether you like it as an analogy or not that’s the way of the world, and always has been.
 
Procters' website states that they have 80 ewes and have sold to a top of 16k gns for male and 7k for female. Assuming that they paid a third of the consortium price, and put over all their flock (a gamble, I'd say), then it will have cost them almost two grand a time. Sure, some might get sold as straws, but it's still a tricky one to stack up on economic grounds. It's not like you can sell 'Double DIamond' shirts for £30 a time to a million fans in another country...
I know what your saying but this is their target market not your 350 pound commercial rams. Ever since pedigree stock was created there have been people who try to buy a reputation, good luck to them. They never last long, gets too hard and move on to other breeds or something else but someone else is always keen to jump in there shoes. It will not change. Human nature sadly.
 

gatepost

Member
Location
Cotswolds
Poor muscle depth too lean and no arse according to that, overall index made up of supposed superb growth rate, a turner is just a painting from the man who is sought after, I have a local artist, who has sold paintings for a few thousand, he says once you have got one sold to hang in a corporate board room then the rest follow, because they don't want to miss out or be seen to miss out, Good luck to Charlie and family they have invested for years, they have a good reputation for being straight, but unfortunately I don't think it has much to do with the man who knocks on my door to buy a tup, and the real problem with the whole job is the thousands of unsold, not quite good enough embryo Lanark day types, which are flooding the market from folk who don't do it for their living, that's where it affects folk like me, in the pocket. Any how I liked your 1st lamb in, and pleased you got him away for good money, he had the bits that are needed.
 

cowboysupper

Member
Mixed Farmer
Poor muscle depth too lean and no arse according to that, overall index made up of supposed superb growth rate, a turner is just a painting from the man who is sought after, I have a local artist, who has sold paintings for a few thousand, he says once you have got one sold to hang in a corporate board room then the rest follow, because they don't want to miss out or be seen to miss out, Good luck to Charlie and family they have invested for years, they have a good reputation for being straight, but unfortunately I don't think it has much to do with the man who knocks on my door to buy a tup, and the real problem with the whole job is the thousands of unsold, not quite good enough embryo Lanark day types, which are flooding the market from folk who don't do it for their living, that's where it affects folk like me, in the pocket. Any how I liked your 1st lamb in, and pleased you got him away for good money, he had the bits that are needed.

That is a big big problem. These folk have been sucked into buying high price gimmers at winter in lamb sales. More often than not they breed lambs that don't live up to the price tag of their mother, but people keep flushing and flushing hopeing some frozen semen will click. It doesnt seem to matter to these people that they're throwing good money after bad, nevermind any health issues the ewes have either.

I wish there was a way of establishing rules within the society that ewes cannot be flushed unless they meet certain health criteria as a minimum and have reared lambs naturally for X number of years. Whether they breed well enough could be up to the owners discretion, but at least it would set a precident for prioritising maternal and health traits. Unfortunately policing this would be nigh on impossible unless the DNA/genomics programme is ramped up further and would likely add significantly more cost.
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
I wish there was a way of establishing rules within the society that ewes cannot be flushed unless they meet certain health criteria as a minimum and have reared lambs naturally for X number of years.

that was the case when the technology first arrived. They considered a donor MOT but fell down on the side of not being a Nanny to breeders.

when you’re selling nobody, and I mean nobody, does any research on the dam apart from looking at a picture, show results and progeny sales. You could say the vendors and purchasers deserve each other.
 

sheepwise

Member
Location
SW Scotland
That’s very kind of you. They’re needed but not necessarily wanted in that location. Valuable lesson learned.
Think my son had your lamb marked as a right carcase lamb when viewing the night before. Don't think he got started on the online bidding though. What number was he and I'll check with him?
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
Think my son had your lamb marked as a right carcase lamb when viewing the night before. Don't think he got started on the online bidding though. What number was he and I'll check with him?

the girls lamb was 200

my parents lambs were 424 and 425

If he had 425 he had the bargain of the day (century) and I wish him all the best with him.
 

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