Land drive trailer

cjcrofter

Member
Location
Highlands
Has anyone made a land drive trailer to pull behind a Massey Ferguson 135. I have Ferguson tef rear axle but not sure if the ratio is suitable. I’ve seen videos of similar trailer on YouTube.
 
Local Limeys had 165s (I think) with powered axle limespreader trailers in the 60’s operating in North Lancashire. I seem to remember being told they used axles out of ex army Commer 4x4 trucks.
My Dad had to go try pull one back up a hillside when he went over a bank and just slid down the hill. They had to use the winch from the local timber merchant’s Matador in the end.
Powering a trailer axle is just a matter of getting diff gearing and tyre sizes matched up - maths.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Yes wheel/ tyre size will be important . I suppose the trailer running slightly faster would be better than slightly slower.:unsure:
And of course Wouldn't be used with pto engaged on a hard surface, would it , just like you dont with a 4wd tractor.
 

cjcrofter

Member
Location
Highlands
I’ve seen videos on YouTube of transporting peat on soft ground with a Massey Ferguson 35,Both the tractor and trailer have double wheels and work very effectively.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
Yes wheel/ tyre size will be important . I suppose the trailer running slightly faster would be better than slightly slower.:unsure:
And of course Wouldn't be used with pto engaged on a hard surface, would it , just like you dont with a 4wd tractor.
Better with the trailer running slower than faster. If it's faster it pushes the tractor around and will lift the drawbar when going uphill. I've experienced a tanker with a driven axle that didn't have the gearing quite right.
 
I do know someone used lime spreader in land drive with different tractor and there was a Big Bang after short distance because of different speed between spreader and tractor
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Used a home made one many years ago to cart cabbage in winter. That was on a 135.
It is a long time ago but my memory of the axle was a lorry axle rather than a tractor axle. If you put a tractor axle on aren't you going to need tractor wheels too?
 

Hilly

Member
Used a home made one many years ago to cart cabbage in winter. That was on a 135.
It is a long time ago but my memory of the axle was a lorry axle rather than a tractor axle. If you put a tractor axle on aren't you going to need tractor wheels too?
Bedford running gear I think they used a lot ex army about all gone now but why they didn’t keep
It and improve it all I never know they dragg lime spreaders with 200hp that a mf65 could pull with land drive
 

Cms

Member
A neighbour of mine has land drive trailers for taking turf off the bog. He has them on mf 135s and 35s. They have triple wheels on the tractors and trailers. The trailers are built on a mf 35/135 rear axle. He puts the tractor into land drive pto when he goes onto the bog and knocks it out of pto when he is on solid ground. Its amazing the load they can carry on soft ground.
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I have seen old gravel trailers used for filling drain trenches with them, as the pto was driving the conveyor the issue was what happens at different speeds due to depth of the drain, the answer was put a car gearbox on the prop shaft and select gear to suit
 

NI farmer

Member
Seen mf 165 stoning drains with stone cart built on a165 back acle and gearbox.
Used pto to drive it in ground drive
With large wheels on tractor and twins on cart it would go anywhere
 

cjcrofter

Member
Location
Highlands
A neighbour of mine has land drive trailers for taking turf off the bog. He has them on mf 135s and 35s. They have triple wheels on the tractors and trailers. The trailers are built on a mf 35/135 rear axle. He puts the tractor into land drive pto when he goes onto the bog and knocks it out of pto when he is on solid ground. Its amazing the load they can carry on soft ground.
That’s exactly what I’m thinking of building. I’ve a rear axle of a Ferguson tef20 I was going to use and pull it with a Massey Ferguson 135.
 

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