Land Price West Wales

[George from SJM Planning]

I think everyone who owns property is worth more than they thought just now. A lovely house up my lane sold for £180k about eight months ago. Absolutely spot on, but the buyers are still spending a small additional fortune doing something, a lot, inside it.
Last week though, a tiny cottage with a tin roof up in the village, which I reckon would hardly qualify as a starter home, sold days after being put on sale for the same figure, £180k.

Property price inflation is out of control with tiny deposits required. We've been here before of course and it didn't end well. You might have thought that the banks would have learnt a few lessons by now but it doesn't look like it.
Unfortunately the vast majority of house buyers are immigrants from England who can sell their old properties and buy around here, way outbidding locals, while still releasing large amounts of cash to live on. However, they should know that it is a one way street and there is seldom a way back.

We may be incomers (I've been here 15 years and my wife 25) but we are settled here but we are stuck in a 2 bed starter home because every 3 and 4 bed property is being purchased as a second home or holiday let so we can't move up on the market.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

We may be incomers (I've been here 15 years and my wife 25) but we are settled here but we are stuck in a 2 bed starter home because every 3 and 4 bed property is being purchased as a second home or holiday let so we can't move up on the market.

I think you need to be 2nd or 3rd generation to loose the incomes status!

 

[Johngee]

I think you need to be 2nd or 3rd generation to loose the incomes status!

My gt gt grandparents moved to this area in 1870 from Tregaron (25 miles away). I can remember when I was younger some older people reminding me that my family were from away!

 

[tanker]

Most people from Tregaron that do move tend to move a hell of a way(in my mother's family anyway..find them all over the show..)

 

[Al R]

We may be incomers (I've been here 15 years and my wife 25) but we are settled here but we are stuck in a 2 bed starter home because every 3 and 4 bed property is being purchased as a second home or holiday let so we can't move up on the market.

Trying being young wanting a first time buyers house etc... all council houses are taken up by scruff and scum usually from the big cities

 

[George from SJM Planning]

The affordables on our estate were only available to residents of the area for the past 10 years, who worked in public sector roles (civil servants, blue lights etc), who had the relevant deposit and could purchase the property at 70% of the market value.
When we sell the buyer will have to meet the same criteria.

 

[Cowabunga]

I think you need to be 2nd or 3rd generation to loose the incomes status!

Or learn the language and use it. That increases your circle of contacts and friends, especially socially and in the rural community. Most farmers in the area naturally speak Welsh to each other and incomers should be aware that their children will be taught in Welsh from the start of schooling.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Or learn the language and use it. That increases your circle of contacts and friends, especially socially and in the rural community. Most farmers in the area naturally speak Welsh to each other and incomers should be aware that their children will be taught in Welsh from the start of schooling.

Neither of us are conversational Welsh but can get by. Our daughter will be taught in Welsh primarily so we will get more use then. At the moment due to lockdown and working from home I haven't spoken much Welsh in a while.
I probably use Welsh the most on the football pitch or at the mart.

 

[Cowabunga]

Neither of us are conversational Welsh but can get by. Our daughter will be taught in Welsh primarily so we will get more use then. At the moment due to lockdown and working from home I haven't spoken much Welsh in a while.
I probably use Welsh the most on the football pitch or at the mart.

Exactly. It is used socially to a very great extent in our locality especially out of coastal towns.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Or learn the language and use it. That increases your circle of contacts and friends, especially socially and in the rural community. Most farmers in the area naturally speak Welsh to each other and incomers should be aware that their children will be taught in Welsh from the start of schooling.

A case of blood not being thicker than water [emoji23]
It was dads one ambition to be back in his homeland,but without the Language he was not really Welsh

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Exactly. It is used socially to a very great extent in our locality especially out of coastal towns.

Yes, having first lived in Llandysul/Newcastle Emlyn I used Welsh much more than now I live in New Quay.

 

[Forkdriver]

As an incomer with no Welsh language skills l was aware that Welsh is the first language round here but we haven't been excluded as folks have been most helpful. My pronunciation is gently corrected from time to time, but will improve. At the moment my bad o level french is my second language , and I can't remember much of that.

 

[andybk]

Thank you, I was in the right ballpark then.

Be 40k (10k ac) minimum for horses around here prob nearer 15k ac , farmland is 8-10000 ac

 

[Derrick Hughes]

When I'm cycling in Sussex it's "Shwmae" when I see someone [emoji23]

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Be 40k (10k ac) minimum for horses around here prob nearer 15k ac , farmland is 8-10000 ac

A horse person is out of it , Dairy Farmers are the land kings and a lot less hassle , a horse buyer offered me £10.000 total for a 5 acre field. They don't have a clue

 

[vantage]

Speaking to a few neighbours I don’t think anyone who is actively farming has gone for it or has any intention!

Same here. A 40 acre block sold to incomers to stop OPD development, guide was 9k+, out of my league. Not a lot happening to the land atm, would rent it if possible as it’s between our farms.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

When I'm cycling in Sussex it's "Shwmae" when I see someone [emoji23]

Whenever I stay in Kent hotels I always have a Bore Da ready in the morning.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Be 40k (10k ac) minimum for horses around here prob nearer 15k ac , farmland is 8-10000 ac

My question is how do the sellers know it's for horses? I'm not telling them!

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes, having first lived in Llandysul/Newcastle Emlyn I used Welsh much more than now I live in New Quay.

I was at a funeral in New Quay, or between it and Maenygroes in the cemetery, on Tuesday and many were born and bred NQ and Aberaeron and hardly a one spoke Welsh. The town was notorious for being the most Anglicised in Sir Aberteifi [as it was then] even when I was in school in the early 70's. Basically NQ people were considered snobs or 'rough' in equal proportions.

 

[Cowabunga]

As an incomer with no Welsh language skills l was aware that Welsh is the first language round here but we haven't been excluded as folks have been most helpful. My pronunciation is gently corrected from time to time, but will improve. At the moment my bad o level french is my second language , and I can't remember much of that.

You won't be excluded but you will have noticed that people revert to Welsh because that is what they use naturally. It is their, our, my first language. Yet you may have noticed that I can converse perfectly well in English to English speakers.