laying pipes

Iain Graham

Member
Mixed Farmer
I am having trouble with my local authority at the moment and wondered if anyone had experience of needing planning to lay drainage pipes on agricultural land? Can anyone tell me about your experience?
 
No consent required if for agricultural purposes. I'm guessing they may be deciding to interpret it as an "engineering operation".

@George from SJM Planning is a man you would be wise to speak to.
Thanks @Steevo. I would concur that it is unlikely to require planning permission, however we only have the bare bones of information. I am assuming this is land drainage to improve the land for agricultural purposes?

Where is the outfall? If it is directly into an EA watercourse then I believe there are licences required however this is not my area of expertise. @holwellcourtfarm maybe?
 

robs1

Member
I am having trouble with my local authority at the moment and wondered if anyone had experience of needing planning to lay drainage pipes on agricultural land? Can anyone tell me about your experience?
I would have thought they had better things to waste their time on
 

Smith31

Member
I am having trouble with my local authority at the moment and wondered if anyone had experience of needing planning to lay drainage pipes on agricultural land? Can anyone tell me about your experience?
We had an enquiry from planning enforcement, the storms collapsed a culvert so we had to lay new culvert pipes to divert the water.

If i remember correctly, a Land drainage consent from the council was needed for the culvert pipe work which was around £50?, because the works were required to prevent agricutural land from flooding no planning permission was required.

Whatever you do please don't argue with the officials, they have the power to walk away or simply escalate matters, remember they finish at 4pm so couldn't care less, someone must have complained so they are duty bound to investigate.
 

Iain Graham

Member
Mixed Farmer
We did have a plan to put drainage to a shed, however the shed had been rejected by planning. As there is now no shed we may use the drainage pipe to divert street drain that enters our land from a nearby road and empties onto our land and is causing errosion. We connected our drainage to the sewerage works / waste water pipe which is also on our land. Planning are suggesting we remove the pipes totally so wondered if we have an arguement to keep the pipework
 
We did have a plan to put drainage to a shed, however the shed had been rejected by planning. As there is now no shed we may use the drainage pipe to divert street drain that enters our land from a nearby road and empties onto our land and is causing errosion. We connected our drainage to the sewerage works / waste water pipe which is also on our land. Planning are suggesting we remove the pipes totally so wondered if we have an arguement to keep the pipework
So they are claiming you are starting work on a refused planning application.

Are you suggesting diverting surface water into the waste water system? That is normally frowned upon.
 

Iain Graham

Member
Mixed Farmer
They are saying we need to remove the pipes as they need planning, we received advice to the contrary which is why we put them in… and we are now trying to avoid removing them if possible. Its all been quite tricky to navigate and hard to fond info about what we are able to do. The locals around the land are being pretty difficult too.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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