Leaving job without notice

Lincoln75

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Along the lines of “If you are thinking of giving Bloggs a berth, make sure that it’s a wide one.”
No, that could get you in trouble, but may get away with saying he was late every day, never phoned in when off sick , crashed two tractors etc etc if it is true.
 

Formatted

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Livestock Farmer
A load of absolutely crap advice in this thread
  • You can't withhold payment or garnish wages
  • Give them their P45 and take into account any accrued holiday and put that against their notice period
  • You maybe be able to claim the costs of getting a replacement to cover their notice period, but you're going to have to take them to court to get it and can you really be bothered?
  • Ask yourself, why did this person leave without notice, did I make the wrong hiring decision? Am I paying to little and they got a better offer? Is my farm a bad working environment? Or were they just a tosser
 

Bald n Grumpy

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Livestock Farmer
No, that could get you in trouble, but may get away with saying he was late every day, never phoned in when off sick , crashed two tractors etc etc if it is true.
Someone working in a farm shop asked boss for reference, went for interview with a big company and didn't get the job , poor timekeeping was mentioned in the reference and the big company said it was not allowed and it should be sorted. Cost the reference writer several grand to sort out of court.
Even if it's true you can't write a bad reference, you just don't write one
 

Lincoln75

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Someone working in a farm shop asked boss for reference, went for interview with a big company and didn't get the job , poor timekeeping was mentioned in the reference and the big company said it was not allowed and it should be sorted. Cost the reference writer several grand to sort out of court.
Even if it's true you can't write a bad reference, you just don't write one
Not so https://landaulaw.co.uk/faqs/can-your-employer-give-you-a-bad-reference/

But employee's are advised https://landaulaw.co.uk/rights-given-incorrect-reference/

and dont think ex employee`s couldnt afford to take you to court because you paid them so little :oops: - https://landaulaw.co.uk/no-win-no-fee/
 
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Bald n Grumpy

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SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
I think the rules say you cannot give a bad reference. You end up saying things like, "you will never know just how lucky you are to get this guy to work for you" you are not allowed to add "he never bloody well worked for me". Word gets around all the same.
As I understand it, most modern references simply confirmed that employee x worked for you from (date) to (date) and had no disciplinaries in that time (unless they did, in which case you can name them if official).
 

DRC

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I’m amazed anyone’s on the books as I thought everyone was so called, Self Employed, these days .
£10/hr with no benefits. Isn’t this how the dairy industry works!
 

Lincoln75

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I’m amazed anyone’s on the books as I thought everyone was so called, Self Employed, these days .
£10/hr with no benefits. Isn’t this how the dairy industry works!
Those days are over , at least they are if the employer does it legally, if not HMRC will jump on them.
 

DRC

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Those days are over , at least they are if the employer does it legally, if not HMRC will jump on them.
You’d think so, but plenty are at it and not just Ag. My nephew works for an electrical engineering company and all self employed. I only found out when he recently ruptured his Achilles and will be off for at least 3 months and said he’d got no sick pay or insurance cover .
 

Lincoln75

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You’d think so, but plenty are at it and not just Ag. My nephew works for an electrical engineering company and all self employed. I only found out when he recently ruptured his Achilles and will be off for at least 3 months and said he’d got no sick pay or insurance cover .
Probably illegal if they only work for one company , these days I`d have thought a sparks could dictate the terms?
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Had a bloke walk out on me one Friday Lunchtime. Grabbed his lunch bag and got in his car to go home.
I told him that if he did so, that he wasn’t to come back on the Monday. He just left anyway.
On the Monday, I rang the FSB (Federation of Small Businesses) who said I shouldn’t have said so to him and that he should have been given 3 written warnings over a 3 month period for the same misdemeanour, before I told to not come back.

Fortunately for me, he didn’t come back. I then immediately took it upon myself to make sure he was fully paid up to date including any outstanding holiday, stating in an accompanying letter that he had voluntarily left of his own accord.

He was less than 6 months away from retirement. I have subsequently learned that it has been pointed out to him that he was a fool to himself and that had let a hissy fit take the better of him that day. To which he agreed!

I’ve literally had nightmares of him turning up for work in the morning and woken up in a sweat, only to realise that it was an actual nightmare. Thank God this happened 2&1/2 years ago and he really is retired now, so cannot come back.

When you get somebody so awkward as that, who literally makes your own job unnecessarily difficult, let alone a misery, they are best gone! I haven’t looked back since, without realising just how much better life is without him. Everything is now done properly by me and our repairs bill having dropped like a stone. I don’t mind the extra work and actually enjoy the satisfaction that it is done exactly the way I want it to and properly too.
 

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