Led lights😠

Deutzdx3

Member
Similar issue here, bought a box of 8 50w led flood lights, have used 4 of them in 2 years. Have another out now. Will replace them with proper ones now that aren’t cheap Chinese rubbish.
 

davieogrutha

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Orkney
Honestly i have always been surprised/impressed at the length of life LED lights have. is it possible that there are other problems causing your light issues? like mice nest, bird nest, wiring problems. i have a hard time believing that they would just burn out.
Both lights were on same line. One packed in 4 days before the other one. No nests and all wires are out of reach from rodents. Wiring all new and from a new fuse box, was signed of by a electrician too.
 

davieogrutha

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Orkney
What manufacturer are they made by? Everyone has got pretty good at making traditional bulbs on the cheap but not so for LED....... you really need to shell out big money for good led.... look for big names such as Philips.

I'd agree though.....LED is pretty disappointing for the money involved.
Can't mind the manufacturer. But contacted the supplier I got them from and they are going to give me replacement ones under warranty. Find out then where their from.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
I did a quick round up. We actually have nearly 100 Leds in and around the house. Nearly all as down lighters but but including 15 candle style.
we have had a couple of candles fail but other wise the rest are going strong.
when we bought the house originally all downlighters were halogen. in the kitchen were 16 x 50kw so when the lights were running there was 800 watts of power being used. We had issues with these bulbs regularly blowing and one caused, a thankfully mini fire. The original Down lights in the house About 50, were all 12 volt so we replaced against advice with Philips 12 volt GU 11 bulbs . These have been faultless. We have since installed / replaced the rest With 240 volt GU10s and candles as appropriate. I will never have any other type of bulb again. When we did the firrst bulbs they were about £15 each, now you can buy top quality bulbs for a similar price to incandescent, its a no brainer.
 

Chippy

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Location
Cumbria
I don’t recommend Luxum corn lights! Out of 12 I bought 3 years ago only 4 working properly. 6 have stopped working completely and 2 are half working and 2 of the big 125w bulbs packed up before 2 years 🤬
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I did a quick round up. We actually have nearly 100 Leds in and around the house. Nearly all as down lighters but but including 15 candle style.
we have had a couple of candles fail but other wise the rest are going strong.
when we bought the house originally all downlighters were halogen. in the kitchen were 16 x 50kw so when the lights were running there was 800 watts of power being used. We had issues with these bulbs regularly blowing and one caused, a thankfully mini fire. The original Down lights in the house About 50, were all 12 volt so we replaced against advice with Philips 12 volt GU 11 bulbs . These have been faultless. We have since installed / replaced the rest With 240 volt GU10s and candles as appropriate. I will never have any other type of bulb again. When we did the firrst bulbs they were about £15 each, now you can buy top quality bulbs for a similar price to incandescent, its a no brainer.
Whilst led bulbs have come down in price, they certainly aren't similar price to incandescent. The old ones you could pick up for pennies. Even cheap leds are still pounds, and don't last as long as incandescent😕. We built a new house 3 years ago, and have had to replace 5 or 6 led bulbs in the last 18 months - all just out of warranty 😡
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Whilst led bulbs have come down in price, they certainly aren't similar price to incandescent. The old ones you could pick up for pennies. Even cheap leds are still pounds, and don't last as long as incandescent😕. We built a new house 3 years ago, and have had to replace 5 or 6 led bulbs in the last 18 months - all just out of warranty 😡
I knew I was pushing my luck, one went in my bedroom today 😀😀😀
 

Bongodog

Member
Whilst led bulbs have come down in price, they certainly aren't similar price to incandescent. The old ones you could pick up for pennies. Even cheap leds are still pounds, and don't last as long as incandescent😕. We built a new house 3 years ago, and have had to replace 5 or 6 led bulbs in the last 18 months - all just out of warranty 😡
LED bulbs usually have a quoted life in excess of 10,000 hours, a standard incandescent has a life of 1000 hours, the differential between an LED floodlight and the halogen ones is even greater.
You mention replacing 5 or 6 bulbs in 18 months, I can remember back in the days of incandescents everywhere sometimes replacing 2 or 3 every week in winter. I always used to visit Mother in law once weekly and in the winter she would have the replacement bulbs ready for me when I walked in the door.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
LED bulbs usually have a quoted life in excess of 10,000 hours, a standard incandescent has a life of 1000 hours, the differential between an LED floodlight and the halogen ones is even greater.
You mention replacing 5 or 6 bulbs in 18 months, I can remember back in the days of incandescents everywhere sometimes replacing 2 or 3 every week in winter. I always used to visit Mother in law once weekly and in the winter she would have the replacement bulbs ready for me when I walked in the door.
10000 hours is a joke though, they wouldn't have got to 1/4 of that.
And I don't share your experience of incandescent bulbs, though I'm not claiming them to be any better than led, just cheaper!
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
10000 hours is a joke though, they wouldn't have got to 1/4 of that.
And I don't share your experience of incandescent bulbs, though I'm not claiming them to be any better than led, just cheaper!
Years ago incandescent bulbs used to last for ages, but around the mid 90s they started to get "value engineered" so that the filaments had the absolute bare minimum of the lowest quality tungsten, plus the size, quality of the gas and the seals were reduced. By the turn of the millennium the majority of production was in the far East & no longer under the direct control of the companies whose badge they carried.

Back around the time of the ban coming in (~2009) we had a 20+ year old bulb die & when changing it I did a comparison with the replacement. I would say that the new bulb was ~30% smaller & you could see the difference in filament gauge with the naked eye - the new bulb lasted less than a year!
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
10000 hours is a joke though, they wouldn't have got to 1/4 of that.
And I don't share your experience of incandescent bulbs, though I'm not claiming them to be any better than led, just cheaper!
The LEDs in my kitchen have virtually certainly done that already all 17 of them.
I believe that they have run at least 3 hrs a day on average over 10 years.
They cost me in the order of £9 each so gross cost £153
The 3.5 watt bulbs replaced 50 watt halogens
I reckon they have saved me 8705 units at 14p = £1218 not a bad return over the ten years
They have also stopped my house from burning down , which I was certain the halogens were risking
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Years ago incandescent bulbs used to last for ages, but around the mid 90s they started to get "value engineered" so that the filaments had the absolute bare minimum of the lowest quality tungsten, plus the size, quality of the gas and the seals were reduced. By the turn of the millennium the majority of production was in the far East & no longer under the direct control of the companies whose badge they carried.

Back around the time of the ban coming in (~2009) we had a 20+ year old bulb die & when changing it I did a comparison with the replacement. I would say that the new bulb was ~30% smaller & you could see the difference in filament gauge with the naked eye - the new bulb lasted less than a year!
Filamennt guage directly influences lighting strength. So a smaller filament = lower light output.
Bulbs have several reasons for blowing early, Gas or vacuum quality is number one, voltage irregularity is next
 

holmes65

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Arable Farmer
Location
S Yorkshire
Have bought several 50w led floodlights for use in pig shed, grain store and workshop. Had the first ones for over three years now and all still working, dont get massive use but pleased with them. All were bought from https://www.wholesaleledlights.co.uk/ and came with a three year warranty. Its worth registering as a trade cutomer as there is a discount over the retail.
 

335d

Member
Any body any experience of V-TAC with a Samsung chip in them, 5 year warranty.
have two 50w floodlights up, and one 100w for 6 months. Bought another 3 of the 50w ones last week. Only £21 odd. Be aware, the 5 year warranty is only valid if the light is used less than 10, or maybe 12 hours a day. ( ours are only used about 3 hours a day, so no issues.
only thing I don’t like is that they come with a very short lead, about 300mm and you can’t take them apart to wire direct.
be aware, there are different lumen outputs with the same wattage lamp. Think the 50w was 6000 lumens, but some were 4000 lumens. Both daylight ones
 

Manny

Member
Mixed Farmer
I've had about 15, 100watt lights up for maybe 5 years and not lost any until 2 weeks ago. Since reading this thread I have had to replace 3. @TripleSix how do you diognose what has gone wrong with them?
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It looks to me that on the top row, right hand side, third and forth leds both have black dots in them. The other two both seem to have a close pair of leds with black dots in them.
 

robcollins

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Location
Wicklow
I've had about 15, 100watt lights up for maybe 5 years and not lost any until 2 weeks ago. Since reading this thread I have had to replace 3. @TripleSix how do you diognose what has gone wrong with them?View attachment 922398
It looks to me that on the top row, right hand side, third and forth leds both have black dots in them. The other two both seem to have a close pair of leds with black dots in them.
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Looks like your capacitor has blown. Unless that just a bit of mastic on it. Did it start flashing or just die instantly?
 

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