Legumes

Kevtherev

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Location
Welshpool Powys
An interesting read if you can get a copy folks
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Bruce Almighty

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Warwickshire
I would like to grow a reasonable acreage of Lucerne.
Maybe 20-30 acres ?

We have our own silage machinery so can conserve what we like, when we like.
It could be added to our TMR easily.

As I don't know anyone else growing it locally, my experience is minimal.
We have 100 dairy cows, 50 followers as well as 700 ewes and approx 600 acres arable across several farms either rented or contract farmed.
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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Livestock Farmer
May not suit most English conditions. But Lucerne is the king of legumes in my opinion. Tolerates dry and extreme heat(will happily just sit there and do nothing...but it won't die). Then a good rain or an irrigation and the growth is phenomenal. Just simply doesn't tolerate water logging So if you have free draining higher ground, that's what I would look at.
 

hollister

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Location
Alcester, warks
I would like to grow a reasonable acreage of Lucerne.
Maybe 20-30 acres ?

We have our own silage machinery so can conserve what we like, when we like.
It could be added to our TMR easily.

As I don't know anyone else growing it locally, my experience is minimal.
We have 100 dairy cows, 50 followers as well as 700 ewes and approx 600 acres arable across several farms either rented or contract farmed.
Been growing a bit (5acres) for 3/4 years Worcestershire/Warwickshire border. Put a new patch in last year Artemis which is flying, better that previous unknown variety. Get 3 or 4 cuts a year, aiming to get for small bale hay for horses, but some ends up big round silage depending on weather. Following crop of wheat just starting to look hungry.
 

sjt01

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Been growing a bit (5acres) for 3/4 years Worcestershire/Warwickshire border. Put a new patch in last year Artemis which is flying, better that previous unknown variety. Get 3 or 4 cuts a year, aiming to get for small bale hay for horses, but some ends up big round silage depending on weather. Following crop of wheat just starting to look hungry.
Lucerne loves our high pH chalky soil. Keeps growing even when the grass needs irrigating and is parched. Minimal input. We grow about 45 acres, for the dairy herd (clamp silage) and digester. It is the lowest carbon footprint crop for the digester by a long way, but can only feed about 20% of total feed as H2S gets too high at high feed rates.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Err, chickpeas, mungbeans & faba beans are a regular part of my arable cropping rotation. My long term plan is to include vetch & clovers as cover crops during the “fallow” sequence between cash crops.
When I harvest my grain sorghum in a few weeks, it will be planted straight back with vetch, clover, oats & maybe a few other species, then terminated at flowering then fallowed through to wheat / durum next June
 

cows sh#t me to tears

Member
Livestock Farmer
Err, chickpeas, mungbeans & faba beans are a regular part of my arable cropping rotation. My long term plan is to include vetch & clovers as cover crops during the “fallow” sequence between cash crops.
When I harvest my grain sorghum in a few weeks, it will be planted straight back with vetch, clover, oats & maybe a few other species, then terminated at flowering then fallowed through to wheat / durum next June
vetch and clover can be a cash crop also..
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Clovers not new , it's just been forgotten on a lot of farms, I can remember helping dad with mixes in the 60st and 70 ts, Clover was almost standard in those days , he always put half a pound of New Zealand Wild White in , what's seen the demise of Clover on a lot of farms are Docks and the inability to use cheap sprays
Yes thistles ditto , pity there's not a good and effective Clover safe herbicide.
Relatively cheap N hasn't helped agricultural use of legumes development here either its likely.
 

cows sh#t me to tears

Member
Livestock Farmer
Before I left school the old man never sprayed any pastures. We had a massive dock, Patterson curse, and thistle problem. Started spraying, plus tried a few biological controls (dock grubs from South Africa , and I think there was one for Patterson curse too?). Anyway, clover levels didn’t decline , but the weeds did. Now rarely see a dock and patto is a relative rarity.

Do agree about the over reliance on bagged N , and clover certainly doesn't appreciate excessive amounts of urea.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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