lely cock pheasant

[sulky]

Looked on you tube they seem to do a good job. I know where there is a tidy one for sale which has been fitted with new belts, tyres and tines. My plan was to buy it and leave it in a 15 acre field 3 mile from home to turn the grass with. It could stay in the field all year in an old sheep hut. I know they are from a different era but what's people's thoughts on them who have used them.

just as a little twist on this thread can anybody name the four types of blench/lely pheasants ,not including vicon/lely fan ted

 

[Roy_H]

just as a little twist on this thread can anybody name the four types of blench/lely pheasants ,not including vicon/lely fan ted

1,Cock Pheasant, 2,Hen Pheasant, 3,Flying Pheasant, 4,Golden Pheasant.
Now I am showing my age!

 

[sulky]

correct , I had the privalidge of using three of them infernal things but made some of the best hay we produced never understood the different models , transport was a problem if you had far to go,

 

[Goweresque]

Plus having to keep changing them damn springs

There is a technique for fitting them that saves both knuckles and sanity you know..............

 

[DeeGee]

1,Cock Pheasant, 2,Hen Pheasant, 3,Flying Pheasant, 4,Golden Pheasant.
Now I am showing my age!

Wasn't the Flying Pheasant a mounted machine? Apart from the Cock pheasant I never knew for sure what they all did differently. To be honest even though I grew up and worked in that era I had never heard of the 'Hen' model until now.

 

[Roy_H]

Trying to pull one down a badly rutted lane in it's transport position was quite an experience!

 

[FonterraFarmer]

If you can't read dutch , just look at the pictures ffs

I used to have some magazines like that....

Page 6 + 7 ffs

 

[FonterraFarmer]

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Nothing mouldy about my, I don't use Hayblob farmers

Never mind about the haybob, what the feck mowed that paddock???

 

[smcapstick]

Never mind about the haybob, what the feck mowed that paddock???

Somebody in a rush to clear some docks?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Having been given an Acrobat the other day, I'm now the proud owner of both these fine machines so we'll have a "Rake-off" to see which is worse. (Mrs Fred thinks the Acrobat is very photogenic but she hasn't had to drive it yet )

$10 says that the Bamford does a better job, if I'm wrong , I'll pay in person if you pay for my return airfare.

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

I have just read right through this thread, and served my time with a Bamford whuffler and an Acrobat. We baled a lot round the country as well, and you knew who would have good rows with the acrobat and who would have it " rucked". If the ones who complain so much about haybob rows had baled for a day behind an Acrobat, they would soon stop moaning. After the haybob was bought, it cut down the time spent tedding by half, and even the worst driver made fair decent rows with it. We had a jones mini tedder for a while, and I bought one a couple years back for lifting straw out of the stubble, it also gets used in the haylage from time to time.

 

[Selectamatic]

@The Ulsterscot, dont suppose your Jones Minitedder is for sale, is it?

 

[smcapstick]

I have just read right through this thread, and served my time with a Bamford whuffler and an Acrobat. We baled a lot round the country as well, and you knew who would have good rows with the acrobat and who would have it " rucked". If the ones who complain so much about haybob rows had baled for a day behind an Acrobat, they would soon stop moaning. After the haybob was bought, it cut down the time spent tedding by half, and even the worst driver made fair decent rows with it. We had a jones mini tedder for a while, and I bought one a couple years back for lifting straw out of the stubble, it also gets used in the haylage from time to time.
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That's a smart little Zetor

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

@The Ulsterscot, dont suppose your Jones Minitedder is for sale, is it?

Sorry no, it's too useful for any money that's in it. Someone also mentioned the Bamford Wheel rake was no use for rowing up, but Ifell in with one which I use for the straw, it makes a good row, 3 into 1, and you can drive as fast as you want. It was harder to do a lumpy row with it than an acrobat. Must admit I like using the old gear when time permits.

 

[Flat 10]

The age old hay turning problem.

Cock Pheasants or wufflers as we call them do a good job of getting air into the swath but are p poor at moving it over or turning it over.

Turners are good at moving it over and obviously turning it over but don't get air into the swath, tending to rope it.

Haybobs are a bit of a compromise between a wuffler and a turner. Compromise being the word. They still can't really move it across far enough to get it off the wet strip, they don't invert it, they aerate it a bit but not as well as a wuffler and they tend to "lump" it. Also they combine two rows into one which is not the best of starts.

I don't know what the answer is. One day I'll design a machine that flips the swath right over, moves it across a row width and aerates it. How difficult can it be?

Or if such a machine already exists, let me know.

I did wonder about importing an attachment for the front end of my fortschritt rape swather that lifts the swath, moves it to one side and inverts but for me the swath size it works in was too big. Popular in Eastern Europe though, but they don't have a maritime climate.

One of these?

both claim to invert a swath...........

 

[Sid]

One of these? View attachment 361078

both claim to invert a swath...........

Used one like the top picture in Canada but it had a shute to move the crop forward so it landed completely upside-down. Used it in alfalfa to prevent leaf shattter

 

[Boohoo]

Does anyone still use a Fahr Centipede? If so how do they cope with heavy crops?

 

[Sid]

Does anyone still use a Fahr Centipede? If so how do they cope with heavy crops?

Neighbour does...he has two...so him and his son can both go out together and get a decent work rate between them. So they cope but at a low forward speed.

 

[DrWazzock]

@smcapstick

Found a PDF of the haybob manual (via Google) and it would appear that the top link alone is used to set tine sweep height, and the tractor arms are to be set right down, I.e. Not carrying the weight. So fully lower arms and adjust top link to right amount of depth of sweep of the tines. If they are digging in too much, lengthen top link and vice versa.

I also set the wheels at full length, for tedding and have to say it did a much better job of spreading the swath.

Thanks for pointing me down the path to this revelation. We weren't supplied with a manual when we bought the machine secondhand and for years we have carried is slightly on the tractor arms, which is nothing like as good as letting the arms float, and bearing the weight on the top link.

Faith restored in this machine. Hope you sell plenty because at the price you were mentioning and for all round versatility they are very good value at least until such time as I design the holy Grail machine that inverts the swath, spreads it evenly, rows up etc, which will be never!

 

[DrWazzock]

One of these? View attachment 361078

both claim to invert a swath...........

Would be nice to have, but they perform one function only, albeit very well.