lely Tedder, seriously?

[Hfd Cattle]

Best way to stop it chucking grass into the hedge is to put the outside wheel on rowing up position for first time round outside ....job sorted .

 

[Pan mixer]

Best way to stop it chucking grass into the hedge is to put the outside wheel on rowing up position for first time round outside ....job sorted .

I do that too for silage, for hay I find that row never makes properly so I lose some in the hedge and don't worry about it.

 

[balerman]

I have spoken to the dealer. He has said that the pin does lock in place with out me having to leave the cab. He also said that if I go at lower Revs around the outside hopefully it won’t Chuck to much into the hedge. I surpose time will tell.

I leave the tines on one side in the headland position,only leaves a narrow bare line in field and that's only if you work off one side rather than in lands.You could say im lazy but I have several small fields and it works for me.The transport pin really should be used on the road but you can get away with it for very limited rural road use,i wouldn't dare go on a main road without using it.

 

[masseyman74]

Well the dealer is an idiot then. There are 2 pins on the Lely, one that goes in and out automatically when you lift the machine up and down, but that pin is only to hold the machine in the field, they are notorious for slipping, as mentioned by many people above. I've lost numerous light lens on my tractors when you turn on a slight slope and the whole machine slips sideways. And yes the spring is screwed right down on mine too

The second pin that we are talking about here is the transport pin that locks the machine into one orientation and means it CANNOT swing sideways if you hit a pothole and the tractor lurches over, or you have to brake suddenly and swerve for any reason. Not putting that pin in on the road is dangerous to other road users and would open you up potentially to criminal charges if an accident ensued. And would probably invalidate your insurance as you've not complied with the manufacturers instructions for road travel.

One would have thought that a decent ag mechanic could come up with a hydraulic conversion to allow the transport pin to be able to lifted in and out from the cab, but its not going to be a 5 minute job - it would be a bespoke solution, I wouldn't have thought there's a factory kit for it. Apart from which Lely have been bought by Agco and much of their range discontinued

I have just spoken to a very good friend of mine who is a rep for a loader company. He spoke to a retired rep from Lely and they said they never made anything to put the transport pin on from the cab.

 

[masseyman74]

Has anyone got a picture of the 675 pin assembly? As I must admit I did not take to much attention of that coz the Tedder was on a tractor and I couldn’t close enough.

 

[Sharpy]

I leave the tines on one side in the headland position,only leaves a narrow bare line in field and that's only if you work off one side rather than in lands.You could say im lazy but I have several small fields and it works for me.The transport pin really should be used on the road but you can get away with it for very limited rural road use,i wouldn't dare go on a main road without using it.

We do the same, helps to see where to make breaks in the body of the field too.

 

[Agri Spec Solicitor]

Lely Tedder: seriously good. Ours had a shredded tyre yesterday and our local tyre depot had to order one, well 2 in fact, so we will be back to normal tomorrow and have a spare.
Today we tedded hay with our Haybob 360 which normally just rakes. It does a job, the Lely does a good job and rather quicker.
We turn the tines in for the headland. Sometimes we leave it like that so we can see where we are in certain conditions when hay nearly dry.
The Lely is also very easy to grease compared with the 360. It’s a quality bit of kit. Other opinions are available of course!

 

[Goweresque]

Has anyone got a picture of the 675 pin assembly? As I must admit I did not take to much attention of that coz the Tedder was on a tractor and I couldn’t close enough.

Here you go:

The transport pin is the one on the far right hand side of the pic, just below the compressed spring. It seems to me to be a fairly simple engineering job to make a hydraulic opening and closing pin in that location, to replace the manual one.

 

[masseyman74]

Thank you for the picture. I’ve sent it to someone who I know makes bespoke stuff to see what he can come up with! Or maybe I should just look at maybe a Kuhn Tedder instead. But I do quite like the look of the Lely.

 

[Mouser]

Claas with hydraulic hedge curtain would be my choice.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Not sure people really need to know about what I do to have a pee. I have not got enough time in the day to keep getting on my hoist and lowering it down to the ground!!!! So does that answer your question???

As long as it’s not in the same bottle you drink out of...

 

[David.]

Favourite would be a coil spring loaded replacement transport pin to engage under spring pressure only that is withdrawn by a single acting drill marker or trailer brake ram.

 

[masseyman74]

As long as it’s not in the same bottle you drink out of...

I always make sure I take a drink like blackcurrant. Wouldn’t want to get it mixed up with apple juice!!

 

[tinman]

Thank you for the picture. I’ve sent it to someone who I know makes bespoke stuff to see what he can come up with! Or maybe I should just look at maybe a Kuhn Tedder instead. But I do quite like the look of the Lely.

Have a 4 rotor lely here and the pin is one of my bug bears on it too, its imperative its locked for road transport or it will swing to some side if its not pinned and you dont want that.

now i might be over engineering it but this id be my take on it,
some 50x10 bent like a saddle with wings either side so it could be bolted to the flat plate on the top side of the tedder.
the depth of the saddle would depend on the lth of the cylinder used.
it only needs to travel about 3" or so to lock it in place if even.

id be inclined to use a double acting cylinder and have a longer than normal chrome rod in it which would act as the locking pin, or if that was leaving the cylinder too big then a sleeve on the extended chrome rod welded on to keep the cylinder small, id also have the end of it turned to a taper so if the hole wasnt just perfect it would pull it into place.
id mechanically mount the ram to the underside of the saddle and have a spacer plate between the saddle legs low down to act as a guide for the rod, it would never be out of that plate either locked or unlocked.

the reason for the double acting cylinder would be to have a relief valve on the locking side and because of that the bleed off above the set pressure would be tee'd into the other side of the cylinder to double up as a return.
without the relief valve it would bend something if its not aligned when engaging.
on the unlocking side it makes no odds as it would never be that tight that it wouldn't pull out, 1/4 pipes to feed it.

some day ill get round to it and its only at this time of the year its thought about and forgot about when its put away for the winter.
like i say, im probably over engineering it but that id be my take on it anyways.
that is of course if any of the above makes sense at all.

 

[z.man]

How about just leaving the locking pin in all the time and lifting the Tedder at the corners and the ends?

 

[michael N123]

I’ve never used the transport pins on my fella Tedder just don’t go flat out between fields

 

[DrWazzock]

Getting out of the cab now and again prevents deep vein thrombosis so it’s not a bad thing.

 

[Drillman]

Getting out of the cab now and again prevents deep vein thrombosis so it’s not a bad thing.

I think if the @masseyman74 only had that to worry about he wouldn’t have commented on this thread!