Lemken solitair drills

Andrew1983

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Black Isle
How do users find these? Currently on 3m Amazone which I'm pretty happy with. May have the requirement for more output next year so thinking a folding 4m may be best option. What sort of hp do they need with a front tank and what sort of output is achievable?

How do they stand up to stones/rocks? Can the power harrow float/bounce over separate to the drill? They look lighter built than the amazone?
 

Sandy

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Location
Aberdeenshire
How do users find these? Currently on 3m Amazone which I'm pretty happy with. May have the requirement for more output next year so thinking a folding 4m may be best option. What sort of hp do they need with a front tank and what sort of output is achievable?

How do they stand up to stones/rocks? Can the power harrow float/bounce over separate to the drill? They look lighter built than the amazone?
@Zebbedee
 

Pint

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Location
East Sussex
How do users find these? Currently on 3m Amazone which I'm pretty happy with. May have the requirement for more output next year so thinking a folding 4m may be best option. What sort of hp do they need with a front tank and what sort of output is achievable?

How do they stand up to stones/rocks? Can the power harrow float/bounce over separate to the drill? They look lighter built than the amazone?
They don't like stones, they don't bounce over them like the amazone.
Depends on the ground you have, heavy land with steep bits then you'll need plenty horsepower.
Front hopper is mega heavy in fact too heavy. Can't fault the drill bit of it
 
Lemken drill is hard to fault really but the downsides compared to lemken are more likely to drag stones along with you to the endrig than amazone but not really a big issue slip clutch on mine is fairly robust hardly ever trips and Harrow seem pretty strong huge bearings fitted to rotors no aftermarket tines yet and lemken ones are dear! Front hopper is big and heavy but does work well puts any amount of fert down no bother, drill itself is pretty straightforward to work and leaves probably the best job of any drills about, folds up tidy and quick but leaves rear vision blind on road I can,t see anything behind me in mirrors which really needs a camera to help there. It's a big lift requirement to lift the drill and also front hopper I have 215 hp and would not want any less. Any less hp and you would probably be better of with a 3m and go faster or dare I say it a 4 m rigid gives a shout if you want to know more. Edit forgot about output as always variable but as a guide for most conditions in a decent day 50 acres sometimes more sometimes less
 

Andrew1983

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Black Isle
Lemken drill is hard to fault really but the downsides compared to lemken are more likely to drag stones along with you to the endrig than amazone but not really a big issue slip clutch on mine is fairly robust hardly ever trips and Harrow seem pretty strong huge bearings fitted to rotors no aftermarket tines yet and lemken ones are dear! Front hopper is big and heavy but does work well puts any amount of fert down no bother, drill itself is pretty straightforward to work and leaves probably the best job of any drills about, folds up tidy and quick but leaves rear vision blind on road I can,t see anything behind me in mirrors which really needs a camera to help there. It's a big lift requirement to lift the drill and also front hopper I have 215 hp and would not want any less. Any less hp and you would probably be better of with a 3m and go faster or dare I say it a 4 m rigid gives a shout if you want to know more. Edit forgot about output as always variable but as a guide for most conditions in a decent day 50 acres sometimes more sometimes less


Thanks, what sort of forward speed are you doing? You will have some fairly steep stuff too? I'm currently aiming for 12kph where conditions allow. Hills and rough soft ploughing may take me down to 5k. Iv been doing 40acre in 10-11 hour days. I might be as well with more hp and gps steering on what I have and try and get an extra 3 or 4 hours a day. And at worst have a second 3m as a backup.
 

Sandy

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Location
Aberdeenshire
They don't like stones, they don't bounce over them like the amazone.
Depends on the ground you have, heavy land with steep bits then you'll need plenty horsepower.
Front hopper is mega heavy in fact too heavy. Can't fault the drill bit of it
I think lemken make their own front hopper now instead of the sellars one
 
Thanks, what sort of forward speed are you doing? You will have some fairly steep stuff too? I'm currently aiming for 12kph where conditions allow. Hills and rough soft ploughing may take me down to 5k. Iv been doing 40acre in 10-11 hour days. I might be as well with more hp and gps steering on what I have and try and get an extra 3 or 4 hours a day. And at worst have a second 3m as a backup.
You are possibly right staying 3m folding is so much heavier/expensive and complex and like i say unless you have horsepower not really worth it I am at the lower end of horsepower bracket really. I am normally at 9-10k here but probably heavier ground than you if I get 11k I am in clover hills will pull me down obviously
 

blackbob

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Location
Aberdeenshire
The plastic press wheels can break on stones, and lose their tyres.. although they do mean that you hardly need to roll afterwards. The harrow tines seem strong enough. And yes the front hopper is heavy, a 3t Wilson linkage won't lift it full.
Used on a 7624 - 240hp? - on ligh-tish soil. I think the previous 6495 was only just enough.
 

DGC1

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Location
Scotland
we run a 4m folding
very good power harrow with no issues, in 5th season
markers are like others so best with gps
its on a 939 doing wet, steep, rock heads, stones & industrial areas.
unless you have 280hp plus then pointless running a 4m on steeper ground.
80-90acres per day in reasonable going but some of this is def down to hp to hand. put it on a 724 and 50-60acres max + more fuel burnt.
939 using less L/ha fuel than any other tractor in the past and power harrow working harder.
we changed after many years running kuhn and was very worried that the zirkon would not stand up but to be fair to it the tine holders and levelling boards look like new.
would buy another one
 

Oat

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Location
Cheshire
I have used some Lemken coulters on a home-made drill. They take some adjusting to get the correct angle and pressure on the discs, and then on the following wheel. But once set up, they work well. The only problem is that it then takes as long to adjust them again when soil conditions change a bit.
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
Anybody had bother with the lemken disc coulters not turning?
Drill only done around 800 acres but a good few of them not turning properly.
If so what’s solution? Undo the 6 bolts on each of the 40 discs, remove bearing and apply copper grease to shaft they run on?
 
Anybody had bother with the lemken disc coulters not turning?
Drill only done around 800 acres but a good few of them not turning properly.
If so what’s solution? Undo the 6 bolts on each of the 40 discs, remove bearing and apply copper grease to shaft they run on?
What do you think is causing it? Eg are the bearings tight or discs stuck to the rubber cleaning strips as they can do that over the winter but just need a pull to free them, the only other time I see them starting to stall is when I have them set very shallow sowing osr
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
What do you think is causing it? Eg are the bearings tight or discs stuck to the rubber cleaning strips as they can do that over the winter but just need a pull to free them, the only other time I see them starting to stall is when I have them set very shallow sowing osr

Spoke to sales rep about it today. Says dust can get in there and make them do that.
Advised to take discs off and apply grease to shaft bearings run on.
Never tell you there is a known issue like that when trying to sell you one do they?;)
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
Think your sales rep is having a senior moment?? Nothing in there to grease, bearings are sealed???? If bearings are tight then they need replaced no big deal really pretty simple

It’s the shaft bearings turn on rather than bearings themselves he said to grease. Said dust build up can stop them turning properly on shaft. Too much grease may just attract more dust though(n)
 

Matt L

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Trade
Location
Suffolk
Bearings in that unit shouldn’t turn on the shaft. They are ball bearing races with and inner and outer. If the bearings aren’t running free then they are bad bearings or bad dust seals.
 
It’s the shaft bearings turn on rather than bearings themselves he said to grease. Said dust build up can stop them turning properly on shaft. Too much grease may just attract more dust though(n)
Still think your man is having a senior moment,,,,,,,,,bearings don’t turn on a shaft, one 12mm bolt (19mm socket) in middle of disc holds disc and bearing on but beware the lh disc of the pair is also a lh thread so don’t force it then bearing is held in disc unit by 6 bolts 10mm spanner, if disc is tight to turn here is your answer no grease required I,m afraid all sealed
 

Sandy

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Still think your man is having a senior moment,,,,,,,,,bearings don’t turn on a shaft, one 12mm bolt (19mm socket) in middle of disc holds disc and bearing on but beware the lh disc of the pair is also a lh thread so don’t force it then bearing is held in disc unit by 6 bolts 10mm spanner, if disc is tight to turn here is your answer no grease required I,m afraid all sealed
Are you well with sowing in gods country?
 

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