Letter in FW from 'Animal Rising'

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
(I misread the name...thinking it was 'Animal Rebellion'...there's seemingly so many such movements)

They want gov to fund us to transition to wholly growing/supplying plant based diet.

So, I'm confused....what should I try growing here?
I'm on 1500 acres of peaty granite, with circa 100" of rain*.
If I ploughed most of this place, my scant supply of soil would quickly be down the river.

i note they mention rewilding....so I take it I give up farming altogether?

*I don't know what the weather is like in noddyland, but it sure must be kinder than here.
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
(I misread the name...thinking it was 'Animal Rebellion'...there's seemingly so many such movements)

They want gov to fund us to transition to wholly growing/supplying plant based diet.

So, I'm confused....what should I try growing here?
I'm on 1500 acres of peaty granite, with circa 100" of rain*.
If I ploughed most of this place, my scant supply of soil would quickly be down the river.

i note they mention rewilding....so I take it I give up farming altogether?

*I don't know what the weather is like in noddyland, but it sure must be kinder than here.

they don't understand the concept of different land types/usage and weather :rolleyes:
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
grow willow and rushes then weave baskets from them . they will be microwave safe.

or rampant gorse , chow down on that yum yum and dried ground down bracken might be an aphrodisiac :oops: :unsure: if its sold right (y)
Hush your mouth...we don't want anyone to know about the bracken's secret effect.
Peeps might come in stealing it overnight. (very big dose needed I hear)

And as for the psychoactive effects of docks, and hallucinogenic properties of thistles.........don't for christ sake tell anyone.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
From animalrising.org


"We embrace collaboration with those who share similar values, and seek reconciliation with those who may not.



We stand alongside other groups striving for justice, including climate campaigners; animal rights advocates; striking workers; indigenous communities; and more.



In the animal justice space, we applaud those striving for liberation in their own ways, including the nonhuman animals who fight for their own freedom each and every day. Here we occupy our own niche: using nonviolent direct action to achieve systemic, cultural, and personal transformations.



We seek common ground and reconciliation through dialogue with farming and fishing communities, many of whom increasingly face struggles of their own under the existing system, and from our deepening climate and ecological crises."


I think they need to spend a bit more time collaborating and reconciliating with indigenous communities and learn how we, as human animals, fit in with nature.
Would any of those considered indigenous or subsistence communities be vegetarian let alone vegan?
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
From animalrising.org


"We embrace collaboration with those who share similar values, and seek reconciliation with those who may not.



We stand alongside other groups striving for justice, including climate campaigners; animal rights advocates; striking workers; indigenous communities; and more.



In the animal justice space, we applaud those striving for liberation in their own ways, including the nonhuman animals who fight for their own freedom each and every day. Here we occupy our own niche: using nonviolent direct action to achieve systemic, cultural, and personal transformations.



We seek common ground and reconciliation through dialogue with farming and fishing communities, many of whom increasingly face struggles of their own under the existing system, and from our deepening climate and ecological crises."


I think they need to spend a bit more time collaborating and reconciliating with indigenous communities and learn how we, as human animals, fit in with nature.
Would any of those considered indigenous or subsistence communities be vegetarian let alone vegan?
I am part of an indigenous community...do you think they stand alongside me?
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I am part of an indigenous community...do you think they stand alongside me?

In all honesty, I had you in mind when I read it!!! 🤣

Walking the fields yesterday;

I saw deer which ignored me
I saw a fox which ignored me
Various birds of prey soured overhead, ignoring me
A pair of Canadian geese and their 4 chicks ignored me.

They all ignored me because they think I belong here.
Nature is happy with my presence it's just the people in urban areas that think I should be removed.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
From animalrising.org


"We embrace collaboration with those who share similar values, and seek reconciliation with those who may not.



We stand alongside other groups striving for justice, including climate campaigners; animal rights advocates; striking workers; indigenous communities; and more.



In the animal justice space, we applaud those striving for liberation in their own ways, including the nonhuman animals who fight for their own freedom each and every day. Here we occupy our own niche: using nonviolent direct action to achieve systemic, cultural, and personal transformations.



We seek common ground and reconciliation through dialogue with farming and fishing communities, many of whom increasingly face struggles of their own under the existing system, and from our deepening climate and ecological crises."


I think they need to spend a bit more time collaborating and reconciliating with indigenous communities and learn how we, as human animals, fit in with nature.
Would any of those considered indigenous or subsistence communities be vegetarian let alone vegan?
'We seek common ground and reconciliation through dialogue with farming and fishing communities, many of whom increasingly face struggles of their own under the existing system, and from our deepening climate and ecological crises."'

My cows sought common ground yesterday, when we opened the gate!
The boys off-wintered scotch hoggs too!
My scotch ewes and lambs seeking common ground tuesday i reckon
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Please can we hurry up with the apocalypse? I intend to roam the post apocalyptic wasteland hunting vegans.
you'll have to hurry....they won't be worth skinning after the first week
(and the laugh emoji just wasn't enough...needed guffaw emoji)
You can’t be part of an indigenous community, I thought you lived in this country, and were some white old bloke…😁
hey hey.....who you calling old!
 

soapsud

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dorset
(I misread the name...thinking it was 'Animal Rebellion'...there's seemingly so many such movements)

They want gov to fund us to transition to wholly growing/supplying plant based diet.

So, I'm confused....what should I try growing here?
I'm on 1500 acres of peaty granite, with circa 100" of rain*.
If I ploughed most of this place, my scant supply of soil would quickly be down the river.

i note they mention rewilding....so I take it I give up farming altogether?

*I don't know what the weather is like in noddyland, but it sure must be kinder than here.
Your misreading was instinctively right:

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ladycrofter

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
I am continually perplexed by their rampant disregard for invertebrates. They are clearly vertebrate bigots. How much bug and soil life are destroyed by ploughing? Obviously it has to be, I have no problem with it - and apparently neither do these "animal lovers".

And what about the moles, voles and such that are killed and their habitat destroyed by ploughing, or harvesting? I found a frog dead and wrapped in the bale netting once, in the middle of the field (Oops that's for meat production. But interesting nonetheless.) A field before ploughing for their plant-only based diet is full of wildlife.

But these knobheads don't seem to realise that their utopian "plant-based" diet also entails mass destruction of wildlife - the kind you can't see if you don't know to look. Complete idiots. Someone needs to give them a lesson in biology.

Then they would have us just just foraging about for berries. Oops no, competing with the birds then.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Oh I don't intend to eat them. The stringy barstewards would be dog food at best.

I'll have my nomadic flock of hair sheep to eat myself.

The vegan thing would be for sport, like Ramsay Bolton in Game of Thrones.
Not much sport in em is there?
Unless some kind of a trebuchet could induce a short flight. (tis unsporting not to take them on the wing old chap)
 

delilah

Member
The name change is a recognition of failure.

When Extinction Rebellion came along - with the environment front and centre of its objectives - the animal rights extremists who have been around for years saw an opportunity to broaden their appeal. By adding environmental damage to the list of sins, alongside the welfare concerns of the animal rights movement, they would gain momentum.

It was a smart tactic, and for a while it worked. However as XR campaigners came to recognise that animal agriculture has a role to play in sustainable society, tensions rose. The name change is formal recognition that the animal rights extremists are now back where they were 5 years ago. On their own.
 

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