Letting land for shoot

[Sid]

Have a neighbour want to put some guns out in couple of our fields, up to 8 days a year, and to bring in the hedges on some days.

Going to have a written agreement.....but need to agree a value per acre for access. Of which i have no idea...

Has anyone done similar.

 

[Yale]

Don’t forget the tax man.....

 

[sidjon]

We charge one shoot £750 for a plot and small number of guns and £3000 for very large shoot just for rights and no guns

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I'm gonna get shot down for this but,

anyone allowing rough shooting on land should not be entitled to any enviro-payments.

Your charges should have to reflect that.

 

[Andrew K]

Sid,
If you shoot yourself i would ask for a day or a gun for yourself in the shoot.You will then be able to keep an eye on them first hand besides having no need for money to change hands?
It all depends on how valuable your land is to the shoot really....

 

[Hindsight]

I'm gonna get shot down for this but,

anyone allowing rough shooting on land should not be entitled to any enviro-payments.

Your charges should have to reflect that.

Interesting and intriguing. Why? (I have no axe to grind, genuine question)

 

[Danllan]

Interesting and intriguing. Why? (I have no axe to grind, genuine question)

I guess we can start with lead 'enrichment' of the soil...

 

[Hindsight]

I guess we can start with lead 'enrichment' of the soil...

Yes, a good point.

 

[Ukjay]

Could maybe stipulate steel shot only for environmental reasons, which could help avoid that scenario - and you would then see how interested they are?

 

[Sid]

Sid,
If you shoot yourself i would ask for a day or a gun for yourself in the shoot.You will then be able to keep an eye on them first hand besides having no need for money to change hands?
It all depends on how valuable your land is to the shoot really....

Family shoot.
I'd sooner stick pins in my eyes then go shooting.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Interesting and intriguing. Why? (I have no axe to grind, genuine question)

I would think that most members of the general public would see a contradiction in paying landowners for environmental schemes which are largely aimed at helping ground nesting birds and improve water quality to then be paid to have them both filled with lead.

 

[Sid]

I would think that most members of the general public would see a contradiction in paying landowners for environmental schemes which are largely aimed at helping ground nesting birds and improve water quality to then be paid to have them both filled with lead.

They pay many celebrities for their blood sports hobby.
List as long as your arm seen in SW in shooting season

 

[britt]

I would think that most members of the general public would see a contradiction in paying landowners for environmental schemes which are largely aimed at helping ground nesting birds and improve water quality to then be paid to have them both filled with lead.

If you look at the research done by GWCT all the evidence shows that managing land for shooting benefits wild bird numbers due to feeding, habitat improvement and predator control.
I can understand why people would conclude that shooting is bad for wildlife, but the fact is that most species benefit from it.
Look at the GWCT website for the facts.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

If you look at the research done by GWCT all the evidence shows that managing land for shooting benefits wild bird numbers due to feeding, habitat improvement and predator control.
I can understand why people would conclude that shooting is bad for wildlife, but fact is that most species benefit from it.
Look at the GWCT website for the faccts.

There may be a case for properly managed land where game birds are bred and released.
Rough shooting on land which is not being intensively farmed because of an enviro-scheme.......you are havin'a larf.

 

[Sid]

There may be a case for properly managed land where game birds are bred and released.
Rough shooting on land which is not being intensively farmed because of an enviro-scheme.......you are havin'a larf.

Who said it was a rough shoot?
Go start your own thread and don't hijack mine please.

 

[Hindsight]

I would think that most members of the general public would see a contradiction in paying landowners for environmental schemes which are largely aimed at helping ground nesting birds and improve water quality to then be paid to have them both filled with lead.

Thank you for your reply. Yes I can see your point.

 

[Hindsight]

Who said it was a rough shoot?
Go start your own thread and don't hijack mine please.

Apologies, it was my fault for asking a question which has kinda distracted from your original post. Oh the joys of social media and open forums! Like herding cats.

 

[Brisel]

Have a neighbour want to put some guns out in couple of our fields, up to 8 days a year, and to bring in the hedges on some days.

Going to have a written agreement.....but need to agree a value per acre for access. Of which i have no idea...

Has anyone done similar.

I pay £4.50/acre for the sporting rights on 450 acres, of which I can only really use half that due to proximity to housing & dog walkers. We have 2 release pens, vehicle access and occasionally do a deal with the farming tenant for game covers at extra cost. For what you're suggesting ask £3/acre and be prepared to haggle back to £2.

 

[britt]

There may be a case for properly managed land where game birds are bred and released.
Rough shooting on land which is not being intensively farmed because of an enviro-scheme.......you are havin'a larf.

Sid makes no mention of being in an Agri environment Scheme.
I take it that you haven't bothered to look up the facts then.

 

[Brisel]

I'm gonna get shot down for this but,

anyone allowing rough shooting on land should not be entitled to any enviro-payments.

Your charges should have to reflect that.

Yep, I'll pull the trigger too, though I see your point if a "profit" is derived from it.

Shot land has more conservation features than unshot land. Shooting encourages more biodiversity through planting and predator control. The OP has said nothing about agri-environmental schemes, so your comments are irrelevant here.