Levelling Up

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
I think that's correct BUT is it their fault when the media constantly bombards them with this idea of have it today, pay tomorrow? I've fallen for it in the past. I personally think that credit cards are the work of Satan and should be banned. I have 1 now with a £600 limit, zero balance and I keep it for real emergencies like running out of fuel and my debit card doesn't want to work etc. They truly are the road to ruin and its taken me a lot of pain in my early years to realise how the trap works.
Credit cards are very useful but not for obtaining credit. I have always paid mine off in full by direct debit but you are far from being alone and personal debt is at the root of all evil as well as being the basis for national financial instability.
 

linga

Member
Location
Ceredigion
There have been a lot of comments on ‘the young generation’ being a combination of feckless, wasteful, scroungers, druggies, pissheads, living on credit etc etc. All a bit sad if I’m honest. In any case- surely it’s not the kids fault what the parents may be like?

Firstly, alcohol consumption among the young has been consistently declining for the last 15 years.

Secondly what people spend with their own earned money is what keeps the economy going and is to be largely welcomed. Squirrelling large sums away in cash savings doesn’t actually benefit the economy at large.
We should be please at people buying new cars, phones and TVs as long as they can afford them.

Thirdly, people have always had a tendency to go off the rails- in my own family I have had two drug addicts (one died from it), a depressive alcoholic, and someone who had a mental health breakdown, ran off to South America to get a sex change on the cheap leaving his wife and three children in the process. Only one of these people was under 30. Self destructive behaviours are nothing new, in fact they are probably as old as human nature itself.
The young are all of those things. Always have been and the old were young once too and the young will be old before they know it
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think that's correct BUT is it their fault when the media constantly bombards them with this idea of have it today, pay tomorrow? I've fallen for it in the past. I personally think that credit cards are the work of Satan and should be banned. I have 1 now with a £600 limit, zero balance and I keep it for real emergencies like running out of fuel and my debit card doesn't want to work etc. They truly are the road to ruin and its taken me a lot of pain in my early years to realise how the trap works.

Sensible attitude of you can’t trust yourself. I wouldn’t be without one or two now, but only really for the buying security they bring (S75) and the backhanders I gain (probably worth £000s a year). And if I’m typically paying off £3k+ a month but not carrying a balance, that means I have £3k+ more to play with on investments.
 

Charlie Gill

Member
Location
Kent
Sensible attitude of you can’t trust yourself. I wouldn’t be without one or two now, but only really for the buying security they bring (S75) and the backhanders I gain (probably worth £000s a year). And if I’m typically paying off £3k+ a month but not carrying a balance, that means I have £3k+ more to play with on investments.
Share the tips, how are you getting c.3% backhanders?
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Sensible attitude of you can’t trust yourself. I wouldn’t be without one or two now, but only really for the buying security they bring (S75) and the backhanders I gain (probably worth £000s a year). And if I’m typically paying off £3k+ a month but not carrying a balance, that means I have £3k+ more to play with on investments.
I can trust myself now. I was stupid in the past when I was young. I can admit that. If you are trading on CC debt, you need to be careful with that.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I can trust myself now. I was stupid in the past when I was young. I can admit that. If you are trading on CC debt, you need to be careful with that.

I've never paid CC interest in about 30 years of using them and probably over half a million of turnover through them over the period. And I don't trade shares either, just hold a fairly aggressive but mostly static mix of unit trusts and funds.

I’m probably a bit of a dinosaur but I was always brought up to believe if you haven’t got it don’t spend it.

That's a very conservatve attitude, and won't get you into trouble, but you also lose out on the benefits that come from buying on credit. When Thomas Cook went bust a couple of years ago, I bought £5k of new flights to make sure I still had a holiday and let Amex pick up the tab for the uplift (original £3k flights were booked with them and hence I had S75 protection from supplier failure).
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
It is, but I’ve never lost a nights sleep due to debt.

Me neither, but the added peace of mind that comes with the use of cards has helped me sleep soundly when those without have been struggling. I never worry about suppliers going bust, and don't need to spend money on insurances that come with my cards for free.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’m probably a bit of a dinosaur but I was always brought up to believe if you haven’t got it don’t spend it.


You mentioned your divorce elsewhere. Well, 6 months before mx ex ran off, she took out (for me) an NFU CC with a credit limit of 16K (and this was 2000) with an extra card for herself. She left mid August (easy to remember as it was my birthday) and by mid September she had used the whole limit.
Bless them, the CC co (MBNA) gave me it all back but of course, claimed back the funds from all the payees. Which meant for the next month she had a stream of folk at her door demanding payment.
Funny thing was I became friends with another farmer whose wife had left him 6 months before mine (the ex’s were friends). He had had exactly the same thing with even the same CC. 🤔🤔🤔
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
You mentioned your divorce elsewhere. Well, 6 months before mx ex ran off, she took out (for me) an NFU CC with a credit limit of 16K (and this was 2000) with an extra card for herself. She left mid August (easy to remember as it was my birthday) and by mid September she had used the whole limit.
Bless them, the CC co (MBNA) gave me it all back but of course, claimed back the funds from all the payees. Which meant for the next month she had a stream of folk at her door demanding payment.
Funny thing was I became friends with another farmer whose wife had left him 6 months before mine (the ex’s were friends). He had had exactly the same thing with even the same CC. 🤔🤔🤔
As I said earlier, credit cards are OK but no good for credit. :eek: :eek:
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
You mentioned your divorce elsewhere. Well, 6 months before mx ex ran off, she took out (for me) an NFU CC with a credit limit of 16K (and this was 2000) with an extra card for herself. She left mid August (easy to remember as it was my birthday) and by mid September she had used the whole limit.
Bless them, the CC co (MBNA) gave me it all back but of course, claimed back the funds from all the payees. Which meant for the next month she had a stream of folk at her door demanding payment.
Funny thing was I became friends with another farmer whose wife had left him 6 months before mine (the ex’s were friends). He had had exactly the same thing with even the same CC. 🤔🤔🤔
Some people would have taken the ultimate step and moved well away but I suppose France is similar. 😂 😂
 

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