Leyland County - How rare are they ?

[MB Trac]

How many of them were built ? This one is for sale.

 

[John 1594]

To me, that looks like a bray conversion...given the lack of twin propeller shafts that county tended to use on thier conversions. They changed each rear half axle for thier own version which housed a set of bevel gears, transmitting indepandant drive alongside each side of the tractor to the crown wheel and pinion located in each front axle section

bray simply bolted a tranfer box underneath the bellhousing and took the drive from the gearbo pinion shaft direct to the center of the front axle

either way, its rare, quite rare in fact

 

[MB Trac]

To me, that looks like a bray conversion...given the lack of twin propeller shafts that county tended to use on thier conversions. They changed each rear half axle for thier own version which housed a set of bevel gears, transmitting indepandant drive alongside each side of the tractor to the crown wheel and pinion located in each front axle section

bray simply bolted a tranfer box underneath the bellhousing and took the drive from the gearbo pinion shaft direct to the center of the front axle

either way, its rare, quite rare in fact

If its a Bray conversion it would be rarer than a County

 

[Ley253]

The Leyland Nuffield BMC tractor message board would be the place to find an answer.

 

[Lincsman]

One I would guess... silly idea!

 

[Exfarmer]

I think that is a Bray version, blue ones are like hens teeth..
I think they only made 100 countys, but very few left

 

[Mursal]

See the spacer blocks behind the back wheels ...........

 

[John 1594]

See the spacer blocks behind the back wheels ...........

To enable the rear wheels to be swapped with the fronts, as the spacer brings the rear hubs up to the same size of the fronts, and means one size of wheel fits all

 

[Mursal]

Hadn't thought of that, thanks ............

 

[Mursal]

Think as you say it might be the step in the wheel front and back, as the spacer is the same size both ends (see missing stud)

 

[John 1594]

Seems the county versions had the front axle mounted a bit further back, and used the same stud pattern fro the front hubs as the standard leyland rear hubs

Bray, being slightly more industrial in how they built things, opted for much larger 10 stud planetary units for the front hub drives

 

[phil t]

Our 634 County International Next To Our Bray. Sold the 634 last year

 

[John 1594]

Even rarer than the leyland/nuffield Bray conversions

a Bray conversion of the David Brown 1200....they only did a handfull of these as far as i know

 

[Barleycorn]

If my aged brain isn't too mottled, I remember that the County Leyland was built on the 285 / 2100. Even the 2 WD had County parts in the back axle / trumpet housings.

 

[Sussex Martin]

How many of them were built ? This one is for sale. View attachment 457876 View attachment 457878 View attachment 457880

Ship it over to me and I'll take a chance on it, what do you recon £500 .

 

[Mursal]

At that money, we'll collect .............

 

[Marshall 100]

Definitely its Bray,could be Bray 384 or Bray 4-70.More possible 384,because only few 4-70`s were ever made.
Do you have serial number? If you find numbers from Leyland skid-unit,stamped to chassis under engine oil-filter and numbers from Bray plate,riveted to R/H frame not far from starter then its easy to confirm which Bray model it is.
Anyway very rare tractor,save it if you can!

 

[Kevtherev]

Yes it's a bray

 

[Kevtherev]

County is a shorter wheelbase and no outer reductions

 

[Kevtherev]

Bray