leystar herbicide

[ollie989898]

You have some very lovely dirt mind! A far cry from the stuff I used to pad over!

 

[Kam]

Not in a dry year I don't

 

[ollie989898]

Not in a dry year I don't

I had one patch of land like that which was pretty sandy, I have never known docks to grow as well on it as anywhere else. They were literally like rhubarb plants with a hoofing great carrot attached below. As the soil was so light you could literally pull them up by hand and they would not break apart. Never ceased to amaze me, you could cultivate with a sumo, run heavy discs, cambridge rolls, do whatever you like and they would be moved about but were never fazed one jot by cultivations, just to move them about and relocate them from place to place.

 

[Oat]

I had one patch of land like that which was pretty sandy, I have never known docks to grow as well on it as anywhere else. They were literally like rhubarb plants with a hoofing great carrot attached below. As the soil was so light you could literally pull them up by hand and they would not break apart. Never ceased to amaze me, you could cultivate with a sumo, run heavy discs, cambridge rolls, do whatever you like and they would be moved about but were never fazed one jot by cultivations, just to move them about and relocate them from place to place.

Docks seeds can last about 50 years in the soil, so each cultivation probably brought up more seed from the slightly deeper in soil profile. I once knew a field of grass which had no visible docks for about 10 years, then after a complete plough and reseed it suddenly became a carpet of docks

 

[ollie989898]

Docks seeds can last about 50 years in the soil, so each cultivation probably brought up more seed from the slightly deeper in soil profile. I once knew a field of grass which had no visible docks for about 10 years, then after a complete plough and reseed it suddenly became a carpet of docks

These weren't seedlings- they were mature docks, I swear they survived one year to the next, no maize spray ever did more than burn the tops off a bit. I reckon if you had labelled them or given them a GPS collar they would have moved around the field with each cultivation pass each year.

 

[Oat]

how long after leystar could you overseed clover...label didn't really cover

3 months

 

[spin cycle]

3 months
View attachment 806272

oh well done.....don't know how i missed that....interesting about the need for allclear

 

[ollie989898]

oh well done.....don't know how i missed that....interesting about the need for allclear

The all clear is standard language attached to any active with ALS activity. It's because very tiny doses can have potent effects on some susceptible species. It means you shouldn't go and put fungicide on your beans next without properly washing out your sprayer, perhaps, after washing out, doing another crop next would be safer.

I've known instances where a sprayer has been fully washed out with all clear and the next crop was still hurt badly anyway. 'Distance' between crops is usually better.

 

[spin cycle]

The all clear is standard language attached to any active with ALS activity. It's because very tiny doses can have potent effects on some susceptible species. It means you shouldn't go and put fungicide on your beans next without properly washing out your sprayer, perhaps, after washing out, doing another crop next would be safer.

I've known instances where a sprayer has been fully washed out with all clear and the next crop was still hurt badly anyway. 'Distance' between crops is usually better.

whats ALS activity?.....by 'distance' you mean time?...as in chem looses efficacy over time diluted eg glyphosate?.....i'm onto beet next....10 days

 

[Brisel]

Distance = doing other crops not susceptible to SU damage e.g. wheat, barley non herbicide mixes like your earwash to dilute any residues in your sprayer, before you next treat a susceptible one like beans or beet.

ALS inhibitor = the mode of action of that herbicide. That includes sulphonyl ureas such as your grassland herbicides.

 

[Flat 10]

I think next year you could do with 3/4 rate PDM as a pre-em first, you don't really want a crop becoming that dirty in all honesty.

How much did it work out at in terms of cost? Some callisto and bromoxynil would have scorched that fat hen to zip in two days.

Half rate bromoxynil would probably do fat hen.

 

[ollie989898]

Half rate bromoxynil would probably do fat hen.

If you caught them right it would but some biotypes are resistant from memory.

 

[pebble]

Used this year in forage maize with disappointing results. Strong on Docks, chickweed, cleavers and bindweed but done little at fathen and deadnettle.

Anyone done sequence with Callisto which is on tank mix list?