Liberator and Alternatives

[Chris F]

With the launch of another alternative from Rotam, with Golding on the 1st September - here is a list of all the products that are the "same" in terms of actives as Liberator.

Pincer has been re-formulated this year to be the same as last years Ascent - expect a premium over last years stock. Feel free to add prices below as and when you get them.

Product Name:	MAPP (Reg.) Number:	Authorisation Holder:	Marketing Company:	Active Substance(s):	Parallel Import:
Adept	17628​	Agform Limited	Agform Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Ambush	18136​	Agform Limited	Agform Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Ascent	17902​	Agform Limited	Agform Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Clayton Aspect	18550​	JT Agro Ltd.	Clayton Plant Protection Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Clayton Facet	18265​	Clayton Plant Protection Limited	Clayton Plant Protection (UK) Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Clayton Sabre	18535​	Clayton Plant Protection Limited	Clayton Plant Protection (UK) Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Cleancrop Marauder	15933​	United Agri Products Limited	United Agri Products Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	Yes
Deliverer	16692​	Euro Chemicals s.r.o	Euro Chemicals s.r.o	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	Yes
Dephend	18144​	Cheminova A/S	Headland Agrochemicals Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Dephend	18739​	FMC Agro Limited	FMC Agro Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Diflufenastar 100	17475​	Life Scientific Limited	Life Scientific Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Feud	18384​	Gemini Agriculture Ltd	Gemini Agriculture Ltd	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Firestarter	18422​	Life Scientific Limited	Life Scientific Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Firestorm	17631​	Life Scientific Limited	Certis	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Fludual	18554​	JT Agro Ltd.	Hockley Agro UK Ltd	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Golding	18654​	Rotam Agrochemical Europe Limited	Rotam Europe Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Liberator	15206​	Bayer CropScience Limited	Bayer CropScience Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Nucleus	18610​	Cheminova A/S	Headland Agrochemicals Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Nucleus	19026​	FMC Agro Limited	FMC Agro Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Pincer	17130​	Agform Limited	Agform Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Regatta	15353​	Bayer CropScience Limited	Bayer CropScience Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Saviour	16702​	Chem-Wise Limited	Chem-Wise Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	Yes
Sharp XD	18268​	JT Agro Ltd.	JT Agro Ltd.	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Sharp XD	18431​	JT Agro Ltd.	CROPTHETICS LTD	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Terrane	17619​	Cheminova A/S	Headland Agrochemicals Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No
Terrane	18738​	FMC Agro Limited	FMC Agro Limited	100g / l diflufenican and 400g / l flufenacet	No

 

[teslacoils]

Would it be useful to add which are parallel imports Vs generics?

 

[Chris F]

Would it be useful to add which are parallel imports Vs generics?

Done

 

[fudge]

I am going to insist on liberator this year. Fed up with trying to get the other shyte unwelded from the bottom of the can. Two years of that bollox is more than enough.

 

[teslacoils]

Ive seemingly a lot of last year's pincer left over.

 

[An Gof]

Any of those have an EAMU for oats other than Liberator?

 

[Chris F]

Any of those have an EAMU for oats other than Liberator?

I should make my spreadsheet available. Will do the approvals as well once laptop has updated.

 

[Chris F]

Any of those have an EAMU for oats other than Liberator?

It doesn't say in my spreadhseet. However, doesn't an EAMU apply at an active level as opposed to a product level? Question for an actual agronomist? I see Liberator quoted, as an "example" product where the actives are listed.

 

[Hindsight]

It doesn't say in my spreadhseet. However, doesn't an EAMU apply at an active level as opposed to a product level? Question for an actual agronomist? I see Liberator quoted, as an "example" product where the actives are listed.

EAMUs are granted for products.

 

[Chris F]

EAMUs are granted for products.

Thanks. Have found it in my spreadhseet now, was looking int he wrong place @An Gof seems Regatta has an EAMU as well -

Product Name:	MAPP (Reg.) Number:	Authorisation Level:
Adept	17628​	Standard Approval
Ambush	18136​	Standard Approval
Ascent	17902​	Standard Approval
Clayton Aspect	18550​	Standard Approval
Clayton Facet	18265​	Standard Approval
Clayton Sabre	18535​	Standard Approval
Cleancrop Marauder	15933​	Standard Approval
Deliverer	16692​	Standard Approval
Dephend	18144​	Standard Approval
Dephend	18739​	Standard Approval
Diflufenastar 100	17475​	Standard Approval
Feud	18384​	Standard Approval
Firestarter	18422​	Standard Approval
Firestorm	17631​	Standard Approval
Fludual	18554​	Standard Approval
Golding	18654​	Standard Approval
Liberator	15206​	Standard Approval Product also has Extensions of Authorisation. (opens new window)
Nucleus	18610​	Standard Approval
Nucleus	19026​	Standard Approval
Pincer	17130​	Standard Approval
Regatta	15353​	Standard Approval Product also has Extensions of Authorisation. (opens new window)
Saviour	16702​	Standard Approval
Sharp XD	18268​	Standard Approval
Sharp XD	18431​	Standard Approval
Terrane	17619​	Standard Approval
Terrane	18738​	Standard Approval

 

[Hindsight]

Extension of Authorisation - Search Results

secure.pesticides.gov.uk

Jut use this website to check. Simple.

 

[Hindsight]

Thanks. Have found it in my spreadhseet now, was looking int he wrong place @An Gof seems Regatta has an EAMU as well -

Product Name:	MAPP (Reg.) Number:	Authorisation Level:
Adept	17628​	Standard Approval
Ambush	18136​	Standard Approval
Ascent	17902​	Standard Approval
Clayton Aspect	18550​	Standard Approval
Clayton Facet	18265​	Standard Approval
Clayton Sabre	18535​	Standard Approval
Cleancrop Marauder	15933​	Standard Approval
Deliverer	16692​	Standard Approval
Dephend	18144​	Standard Approval
Dephend	18739​	Standard Approval
Diflufenastar 100	17475​	Standard Approval
Feud	18384​	Standard Approval
Firestarter	18422​	Standard Approval
Firestorm	17631​	Standard Approval
Fludual	18554​	Standard Approval
Golding	18654​	Standard Approval
Liberator	15206​	Standard Approval Product also has Extensions of Authorisation. (opens new window)
Nucleus	18610​	Standard Approval
Nucleus	19026​	Standard Approval
Pincer	17130​	Standard Approval
Regatta	15353​	Standard Approval Product also has Extensions of Authorisation. (opens new window)
Saviour	16702​	Standard Approval
Sharp XD	18268​	Standard Approval
Sharp XD	18431​	Standard Approval
Terrane	17619​	Standard Approval
Terrane	18738​	Standard Approval

Herold also, but specific to WInter Oats, wheras other EAMUs are for Oats

 

[Chris F]

Herold also, but specific to WInter Oats, wheras other EAMUs are for Oats

Herold isn't quite the same comparison product as it has 200g of DFF. All the above products have 100g DFF and 400g Flufenacet. Hence not listed above but can be considered.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Liberator £252
Clayton Facet £235

 

[Chris F]

Has anyone got a quote on Golding from Rotam after their press release yesterday?

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/rotam-launches-new-autumn-herbicide-product.299038/

I've not had it offered through any of our suppliers.

 

[Oat]

Herold isn't quite the same comparison product as it has 200g of DFF. All the above products have 100g DFF and 400g Flufenacet. Hence not listed above but can be considered.

HEROLD and its 200:400 g/l equivalents is used more in the rest of Europe. The 100:400 formulation of DFF+flufenacet appears to be more of UK product, but it does allow you apply 0.6+0.3 L/ha, which the HEROLD / 200:400 g/l products doesn't

 

[czechmate]

HEROLD and its 200:400 g/l equivalents is used more in the rest of Europe. The 100:400 formulation of DFF+flufenacet appears to be more of UK product, but it does allow you apply 0.6+0.3 L/ha, which the HEROLD / 200:400 g/l products doesn't

I want to use “liberator” here but there is no available product 1:4. So my plan was to buy whatever 2:4 product and straight flufenacet to make “liberator”. For oats. I do wonder about just using a2:4 product but wouldn’t know a rate

 

[Chris F]

I want to use “liberator” here but there is no available product 1:4. So my plan was to buy whatever 2:4 product and straight flufenacet to make “liberator”. For oats. I do wonder about just using a2:4 product but wouldn’t know a rate

Do they not do a 1:4 product in France? We are heading your way on Tuesday to see the Novag Factory.

 

[czechmate]

Do they not do a 1:4 product in France? We are heading your way on Tuesday to see the Novag Factory.

Not that we can find

 

[nxy]

only 1:4 product in france is Merkur. with pendimethalin.