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[Rossymons]

Off topic but does anyone know why the Irish bulls don’t rank well on the uk SCI index?

SCI, ACI and PLI are basically the same model with slightly different weighting. So different varieties of apples.

EBI, BW and SCI are all completely different fruits. Comparing a banana, apple and orange is very difficult.

 

[farmer on a bike]

SCI, ACI and PLI are basically the same model with slightly different weighting. So different varieties of apples.

EBI, BW and SCI are all completely different fruits. Comparing a banana, apple and orange is very difficult.

The problem is that SCI uses UK data based on UK milk recording results which includes information from cows that have little or no grazing. Research in NZ and Ireland shows that cows rank in a different order depending on diet. In NZ and Ireland most cows are grazed for long periods so the results come out differently. I assume the genomic data is then correlated to the index, so still gives similar issues.

If an NZ bred heifer enters a UK grazing herd with a 5000kg average and is 5% better than the herd average she will be +250kg of milk, but is a Holstein enters a 10000kg herd and is 5% better than average it will be +500kg of milk. Therefore this immediately distorts the indexes in the UK.

 

[Borney92]

I think they might not come up as well because alot are not actually registered on the system for sci, aci and pli due to cost of taking in DNA snips ect. To get there score.

 

[More to life]

I think they might not come up as well because alot are not actually registered on the system for sci, aci and pli due to cost of taking in DNA snips ect. To get there score.

I think it's more to do with how poorly they compare, now weather the comparison is correct is another matter.

 

[Borney92]

I think it's more to do with how poorly they compare, now weather the comparison is correct is another matter.

Each to their own I guess.

 

[early riser]

I see they’ve had to get Cogent on the job this year to sort themselves out……

 

[frederick]

I see they’ve had to get Cogent on the job this year to sort themselves out……

But aren't cogent the main opposition with sexed irish grazing genetics

 

[Will Blackburn]

Cogent used to sort Genus sexed, so not unusual.

 

[early riser]

Cogent used to sort Genus sexed, so not unusual.

but not deliver it as well

 

[Rossymons]

Cogent used to sort Genus sexed, so not unusual.

And Semex too for a time.

 

[sidjon]

but not deliver it as well

And AI

 

[lazy farmer]

Is it me or is it odd that they are sending me emails about their future trading relationships when they don’t want my business?

 

[som farmer]

they buy your e'mail address off 'companies', and then they are so cheap to send, it's probably dearer to delete you, than to keep e'mailing you. Just a bad fact of modern life.