Liming Grassland ?

@Tha Ulsterscot have you done any soil tests? We tested a few weeks ago and found pH higher than expected. Was £9 per sample through DAERA.
Samples are away at the minute, so waiting on them back. I have 4-6 inches of grass on some of the cutting ground so was thinking of a bag or two of the pellets for 1st cut and then apply ground lime to the stubble before regrowth.
 
Get your ground tested by a contractor that spreads lime. He will do it foc.
Forget about pelleted lime it’s expense for nothing.
If you have doubts about this check the neutralising value against the cost of each product. That’s what you are buying
 

2wheels

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Pelleted lime has its place in my opinion. The pelleted lime rep at groundswell was a to$$er though. Really pushy and questioned why anyone would use ground lime.

Personally i use ground lime on all our secure ground.

For ground that i could get booted off at short notice i use pelleted on ploughing. I put on 250kg/ha. I believe this is enough for maintenance.
can't you make an agreement that you get paid back for unexhausted lime that you applied?
 
Pelleted lime has its place in my opinion. The pelleted lime rep at groundswell was a to$$er though. Really pushy and questioned why anyone would use ground lime.

Personally i use ground lime on all our secure ground.

For ground that i could get booted off at short notice i use pelleted on ploughing. I put on 250kg/ha. I believe this is enough for maintenance.


Really?? Give me a reminder when Groundswell is on. I would love to just hang around for a while and listen to his wisdom.
What company was that?

It does have its uses, but they are rare. I’m of the opinion that some farmers who have decided to use it for all situations are going to find themselves in an expensive rut in a few years.



I have some granulated lime sitting for a specific job , bought for its quick action and logistical reasons despite owning a limespreader. Nv printed on the bags is 57%, exactly the same as ground limestone at a quarter of the price. Put 2 tonne of ground limestone on now if soil analysis says you need it, less if you need less. The granulated lime is handy for a crop needing instant effect ( due to the fine grind) like barley going yellow due to acidity, but won't last.


There is far more fine ground (smaller than 150 micron) dust in one tonne of good quality ground lime than in a few cwt of granulated. There has to be by law.
Therefore, the ground lime will actually work just as fast.
Granulated lime cannot work any faster, it’s exactly the same stuff.
Good example of its use though on the barley, maybe good this year if land stays wet.
 
I have a neighbour who uses that pelleted stuff and I keep telling him to just get the contractors in. He’s spent a fortune on it now and can’t see much improvement in ph. As above it needs to be fine to work fast but the coarse grains still work it just takes a bit longer.
I was at a show and my contractor dug into the pelleted lime rep about the neutralising values of it. He walked away the rep that is.
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
Really?? Give me a reminder when Groundswell is on. I would love to just hang around for a while and listen to his wisdom.
What company was that?

It does have its uses, but they are rare. I’m of the opinion that some farmers who have decided to use it for all situations are going to find themselves in an expensive rut in a few years.






There is far more fine ground (smaller than 150 micron) dust in one tonne of good quality ground lime than in a few cwt of granulated. There has to be by law.
Therefore, the ground lime will actually work just as fast.
Granulated lime cannot work any faster, it’s exactly the same stuff.
Good example of its use though on the barley, maybe good this year if land stays wet.
I have never seen a declaration (which I know you are supposed to get) with a load of lime up here. Never. Also the only times I have seen lime work as quick as fertiliser were burnt (?) lime (100 % nv) and prilled lime. Much much more sensible to put lime on 6 months earlier if you need it working by a certain date, especially as the range of particle sizes means you will get sustained release over time rather than in a flash.
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
Strange. As said, the granules CANNOT work quicker, they are made from exactly the same stuff.

I do always compare it to good quality ground lime though. Granulated may work faster than some of the crap that lime suppliers seem to peddle as good quality when it’s actually little better than pipe bedding.
There was lime being supplied round here that was 45nv and looked like someone had spread 6mm chip when I spread fert over ploughing 3 or 4 years ago. Much less choice of lime here, roughly £25 a tonne tipped seems to be the going rate. Last price for burnt was over £100 per ton...…….
 

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