Limousin prolapse

[Matthew Britton]

Morning all. I have just acquired a herd of Limousin cattle, been all Angus so far. In the last week we have had 3 cows prolapse at calving out of the 8 that calved. The vet tells me that it is a common Limousin trait but they are also probably low in mag. I am no expert but it’s the first I have heard of it being a lim trait, is he right?

 

[M-J-G]

A cow with a congenital weakness to cause a prolapse will be doing so pre calving when she's struggling for capacity.

Look through them and see if any of them have been stitched, but if they are doing it after calving as opposed to pre calving I'd say you have a calcium and or mag issue.

 

[Wooly]

Karma for buying a French breed and not taking your English breed with you !!

I didn't realise you had moved over the water.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Certainly not a trait I’ve seen in the Limousin breed...are you talking the full calf bed out or just a normal prolapse

 

[le bon paysan]

Yes Matt a trait, keep the cows on the leaner side. We've had a few but not in the last few years.

 

[Matthew Britton]

Karma for buying a French breed and not taking your English breed with you !!

I didn't realise you had moved over the water.

They are coming too! Just taking forever to get them organised. Should arrive during January. I appreciate them even more now lol [emoji23]. Moved at beginning of September to the Allier department in central France [emoji632]!

 

[Matthew Britton]

Yes Matt a trait, keep the cows on the leaner side. We've had a few but not in the last few years.

They are bloody fat Roger, and after the summer here with no extra food so he tells me! They are on a diet!

 

[M-J-G]

Certainly not a trait I’ve seen in the Limousin breed...are you talking the full calf bed out or just a normal prolapse

That's what I'm wondering, as it would explain a lot.

 

[Matthew Britton]

A cow with a congenital weakness to cause a prolapse will be doing so pre calving when she's struggling for capacity.

Look through them and see if any of them have been stitched, but if they are doing it after calving as opposed to pre calving I'd say you have a calcium and or mag issue.

The vet recons it’s mag and cal deficiency the later caused by the former, just a normal prolapse I think. Two vets on two consecutive nights said the same about it being a trait and the deficiency. Got them on mag flakes with their food now. Having said that I am a bit of a odd ball here having lims in the Charolais region, they are all a bit biased!

 

[Yale]

It is absolutely a lack of mag problem.

We had uterine prolapses for years driving me nuts,over 10% some years,vets scratching heads etc.

After reading a few things on the forum I decided to give free access mag buckets 3 months before calving.

Guess what,no more problems except one which calves late and had no access to a......, mag bucket.

Just had a pallet delivered,45 cows go through about a bucket a week.

 

[Purli R]

It is absolutely a lack of mag problem.

We had uterine prolapses for years driving me nuts,over 10% some years,vets scratching heads etc.

After reading a few things on the forum I decided to give free access mag buckets 3 months before calving.

Guess what,no more problems except one which calves late and had no access to a......, mag bucket.

Just had a pallet delivered,45 cows go through about a bucket a week.

Do the cows appreciate the lights?

 

[betterbreadbeef]

Yes, it's a trait of the breed, we found crossing with a blue for first calf shortened the gestation and reduced calving weights to reduce the issue. Also analysed our forage and feed an in-feed bespoke powdered mineral at housing.

Cows that prolapse and recover will typically breed again and keep it in. Just avoid keeping replacements out of those particular cows

 

[Muck Spreader]

The vet recons it’s mag and cal deficiency the later caused by the former, just a normal prolapse I think. Two vets on two consecutive nights said the same about it being a trait and the deficiency. Got them on mag flakes with their food now. Having said that I am a bit of a odd ball here having lims in the Charolais region, they are all a bit biased!

Have you had your soil tested? We have only had 3 prolapses in 13 years, but our soil is high in Mag. As you may have noticed the French traditionally keep their cows on the fat side, they take less finishing for reform and a bit more milky.

 

[Weasel]

Yes, it's a trait of the breed, we found crossing with a blue for first calf shortened the gestation and reduced calving weights to reduce the issue. Also analysed our forage and feed an in-feed bespoke powdered mineral at housing.

Cows that prolapse and recover will typically breed again and keep it in. Just avoid keeping replacements out of those particular cows

Not in my experience. If they prolapse their down the road

 

[sheepwise]

Karma for buying a French breed and not taking your English breed with you !!

I didn't realise you had moved over the water.

Didn't realise Angus were an English breed!

 

[czechmate]

Morning all. I have just acquired a herd of Limousin cattle, been all Angus so far. In the last week we have had 3 cows prolapse at calving out of the 8 that calved. The vet tells me that it is a common Limousin trait but they are also probably low in mag. I am no expert but it’s the first I have heard of it being a lim trait, is he right?

Bloody hell Matthew. We have calved between 80 and 100 per year for 6 years here and have had 5 prolapses

 

[Farmer 83563]

The vet recons it’s mag and cal deficiency the later caused by the former, just a normal prolapse I think. Two vets on two consecutive nights said the same about it being a trait and the deficiency. Got them on mag flakes with their food now. Having said that I am a bit of a odd ball here having lims in the Charolais region, they are all a bit biased!

We had a couple of uterine prolapses in our Limmys a few yrs back. Now give each cow bottle of Aggers Pro Calcium Drench just as they start calving, bit of a faff but haven't had any since.

 

[le bon paysan]

Yes Matt a trait, keep the cows on the leaner side. We've had a few but not in the last few years.

Oh meant to add, and not since using Agrimin hi iodine bolus in the purple box.
All of France is low in Selenium as well.
Get the bolus gun out.

 

[czechmate]

Oh meant to add, and not since using Agrimin hi iodine bolus in the purple box.
All of France is low in Selenium as well.
Get the bolus gun out.

Get a grip rog and stop writing on here about bloody brown cows?

 

[Weasel]

Bloody hell Matthew. We have calved between 80 and 100 per year for 6 years here and have had 5 prolapses

Must be because their limmys. To busy jumping gates. Straining themselves and shoving it out?