Lincolnshire Farmers HLS refused permission to cultivate

DRC

Member
Moved the goal posts as in new legislation it seems. Our HLS ended 3 years ago, with me ploughing up the Arable reversion , back into wheat. My BPS still comes up prepopulated that it’s permant pasture, despite me entering wheat on the claim form since then.
I’d be very careful now of being in a scheme unless I was prepared for life
 

Hereward

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Location
Peterborough
Moved the goal posts as in new legislation it seems. Our HLS ended 3 years ago, with me ploughing up the Arable reversion , back into wheat. My BPS still comes up prepopulated that it’s permant pasture, despite me entering wheat on the claim form since then.
I’d be very careful now of being in a scheme unless I was prepared for life
You need to change the land cover with the RPA, if its a whole parcel it can be done over the phone if not an RLE1 form.
 

DRC

Member
You need to change the land cover with the RPA, if its a whole parcel it can be done over the phone if not an RLE1 form.
I input a new land code every year when doing the BPS , ie- wheat, barley maize etc.
It’s just those two fields that keep reverting to PP
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
I was led to believe EIA's were for PP established for more than 10 years, so a HLS was ok to revert without an issue :scratchhead:

I'll find out what mine is like next BPS, only been out a year but got paid ok :cautious:
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Just checked this year BPS, all fields that I successfully claimed on last year are again PP even though they paid out with just a change of code in Land Use :scratchhead:
 

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
NE are the most shocking organisation. They could give the Gestapo lessons!! Their contracts mean nothing. They are totally one sided and I wouldn't trust them at all.
If they lose all trust of their clients nobody is going to sign up with them. Even farmers who are environmentally sympathetic are not signing new agreements. Not sure where the NFU are in cases like this!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Imagine NE think they can assume property rights over these guys land....devalue the freehold from 10k/acre down to 3k over 450 acres.
That is where the environmental versus agricultural are about to clash big time.
Anyone still considering these schemes??

Not again.....

Once the present Agreement ends in 2021, it'll take an awful lot to convince me to renew...
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
NE are the most shocking organisation. They could give the Gestapo lessons!! Their contracts mean nothing. They are totally one sided and I wouldn't trust them at all.
If they lose all trust of their clients nobody is going to sign up with them. Even farmers who are environmentally sympathetic are not signing new agreements. Not sure where the NFU are in cases like this!

NFU....? Confused and not willing to tackle NE/RPA unless it's a cut and dried case.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
A Natural England spokesman said: “We have a statutory responsibility to ensure that land of such important environmental significance is appropriately protected.

“In the fields that contain historic environment features, ploughing and returning them to arable production could damage or destroy them and therefore the activities proposed were likely to have a significant effect on the environment.”

Idiots! The fact that the land has been ploughed and farmed for decades seems not affect their decision...
 

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
NFU....? Confused and not willing to tackle NE/RPA unless it's a cut and dried case.
Well they did for me. On an individual basis, they were excellent.....or maybe I just have a very good representative.
On a national scale I would question the NFU's actions against NE. It just appears to be accepted that NE can do exactly what they like without any recriminations.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
A Natural England spokesman said: “We have a statutory responsibility to ensure that land of such important environmental significance is appropriately protected.

“In the fields that contain historic environment features, ploughing and returning them to arable production could damage or destroy them and therefore the activities proposed were likely to have a significant effect on the environment.”

Idiots! The fact that the land has been ploughed and farmed for decades seems not affect their decision...
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Well they did for me. On an individual basis, they were excellent.....or maybe I just have a very good representative.
On a national scale I would question the NFU's actions against NE. It just appears to be accepted that NE can do exactly what they like without any recriminations.
That seemed to be the response I am getting from HQ, but as you have found, local reps are good.
 

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