Liquid fert Advice- Liquisafe and Efficient N28

Sincock

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Trade
Location
Cornwall
Thanks Sincock. Very interesting read, and makes good sense! Last years crop of grass had bagged n on it and looked really bulky. Once mown and dried a bit it seemed to reduce volume significantly! Likely all that water coming out of it!! We’re just planning the next step with our winter wheat. It had 240kg of 27n 12s to start it off, and has also had 25L/ ha of the folex mu35 2 weeks ago. Being slow release for 4-5 weeks is it best wait until then for the next dose? Or should it go on around say 3-4 weeks to make sure it’s there and available should the crop want it? Thanks again for sharing your experiences with foliar feeds.
For cereals I would suggest tank mixing with your T1, T2 & T3 sprays which saves a pass in the field with a tractor. If you aren't spraying / dont want to tank mix / cannot tank mix with your particular chemicals then leave 4 weeks between applications. After 4 weeks you will have used 94% of the N. T1 and T2 usually drive yield and a T3 application will generally push protein.

Foliar isn't dependant on the weather so the N will be taken in regardless but with Folex mu35 beware of scorch, especially if tank mixing 👍
 

snipe

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Location
west yorkshire
For cereals I would suggest tank mixing with your T1, T2 & T3 sprays which saves a pass in the field with a tractor. If you aren't spraying / dont want to tank mix / cannot tank mix with your particular chemicals then leave 4 weeks between applications. After 4 weeks you will have used 94% of the N. T1 and T2 usually drive yield and a T3 application will generally push protein.

Foliar isn't dependant on the weather so the N will be taken in regardless but with Folex mu35 beware of scorch, especially if tank mixing 👍
We have some Mz 28 and some efficient 28. I was talking to the technical team at agrovista where the Mz 28 came from and the now say 28 litres is equivalent to 40kg (thought it was 20 litres) and they recommended not to mix any fungicide as the mz28 reduces the the efficiency of the fungicide. The reason i bought it was to reduce passes. How does this compare to efficient n28
 

cricketandcrops

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BASIS
Location
Lincolnshire
From all the work I have seen you are looking at 5:1 replacement with these foliar products, eg if putting 30 kg N on the soil need 6 kg through the leaf - so that is 20 lt/ha of our Safe N 300
 

snipe

Member
Location
west yorkshire
The plant needs sulphur so it can utilise Bagged fertiliser as I understand it. is no sulphur need when using liquid foliar N. So to compare prices liquid N is comparable with a single top 27-0-0-11rater than a 34.5 straight N product?
 
I doubt there is much info on many of the other foliar N products as they are all pretty new to the market. 3 / 4 years ago Efficie-N-t 28 was probably the only foliar available and in the last 12 months alone there have been at least 5 new products released.

A great question re free urea volatilisation... we know that with only 6% free urea in efficient 28 you will be applying 1.5 kgs free urea / ha This is a tiny amount over 1ha. As urea provides N as an amide (NH2) it is very easily and very quickly absorbed through the plant leaf, therefore, it will be absorbed / used before it can volatilise into the atmosphere. With Folex mu35, you will be applying 2.9kgs free urea / ha which will is still low and again likely to be used before it volatilises. That's the beauty of urea, its attached to a carbon (technically making it organic) and the N is in amide form which is literally the building blacks of protein.

Advice is always very similar but 20L / ha = 25kgs / ha = 7kgs N / ha and will replace, more or less, 40kgs N / ha from granular.
Applying more than this in a single does will see diminishing returns. The Nitrogen has a half life which means after 4 weeks you will have used 95% of the 7kgs N applied.

Foliar N is great but it needs to be used properly or you wont see the benefits / get the return on investment so whatever you are using it's worth doing your homework 👍
I applied ef 28 on some growing cutting grass at the rate you advise as advised by our agronomist now we are wondering when we could cut as it has bulked it up ?
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

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