Liquid

[Beef farmer]

Feeding liquid feeds to make up a short fall in forage. Any tips? Anyone done it? Can get adlib feeders and already have 30ton liquid tank.

 

[Clay52]

What liquid feed?

 

[Beef farmer]

A molasis based product. 00s avalible

 

[Clay52]

Got to work it out on a dry matter basis to compare to other feeds.

Also any fiber is actually zero effective fiber.

 

[Beef farmer]

That i appreciate. Luckily a fair % of the diet will be WC so plenty of fibre. Liquids seem to be around the 70%dm. Its going to look expensive, but thats the year

 

[Full of bull(s)]

That i appreciate. Luckily a fair % of the diet will be WC so plenty of fibre. Liquids seem to be around the 70%dm. Its going to look expensive, but thats the year

WC is whole crop I assume? I would look at on if the regumaize type products then you are getting protein as well. If you want to use as much liquid as you can use on if the lower protein ones. I think they come as 20%,44% and 66%. Protein is added urea. Makes it kind of cheaper than molasses alone although it’s dearer if you see what I mean although I wouldn’t rely on it alone for your protein source, a touch of soya with it would do the job

 

[Beef farmer]

WC is whole crop I assume? I would look at on if the regumaize type products then you are getting protein as well. If you want to use as much liquid as you can use on if the lower protein ones. I think they come as 20%,44% and 66%. Protein is added urea. Makes it kind of cheaper than molasses alone although it’s dearer if you see what I mean although I wouldn’t rely on it alone for your protein source, a touch of soya with it would do the job

Id still feed a 20% nut in the parlour.

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Id still feed a 20% nut in the parlour.

With your user name I didn’t think it was for milking cows assumed for fattening cattle!

 

[Scholsey]

QLF have been doing it a long time through ad lib feeders and can put a limiter in to stop animals taking too much, worked really well for us in a past to get extra energy into a ration, just make sure you have enough feeders!

 

[Clay52]

That i appreciate. Luckily a fair % of the diet will be WC so plenty of fibre. Liquids seem to be around the 70%dm. Its going to look expensive, but thats the year

I would check the dry matter yourself as well. I’ve had feeds before with quoted dry matters and it wasn’t close. Turned viable feeds into very poor value feeds.

 

[Beef farmer]

I would check the dry matter yourself as well. I’ve had feeds before with quoted dry matters and it wasn’t close. Turned viable feeds into very poor value feeds.

Getting my head around a liquid feed being 70 dm makes my head spin

 

[Clay52]

Getting my head around a liquid feed being 70 dm makes my head spin

Thinking the same.

 

[Kingofgrass]

We are always feeding some form of syrup/molasses @Beef farmer we put it in the feeder but your on self feed aren’t you? Iv got like a tea pot that holds about a ton lasts about 3/4 days then fill it up again etc brought a 30000litre tank few years ago hold a full artic easy

 

[Beef farmer]

We are always feeding some form of syrup/molasses @Beef farmer we put it in the feeder but your on self feed aren’t you? Iv got like a tea pot that holds about a ton lasts about 3/4 days then fill it up again etc brought a 30000litre tank few years ago hold a full artic easy

Yeah qlf do some big adlib feeders that hold a ton each. 1 per 100 cows. Have 2 x 30 ton tanks here already

 

[Cowski]

Kiwis feed liquid feeds in the parlour- pumped in but I expect you’re feeding a fair slug in there already so may not have time to eat any more. How many kg DM are you expecting them to get from the liquid?

 

[Beef farmer]

Kiwis feed liquid feeds in the parlour- pumped in but I expect you’re feeding a fair slug in there already so may not have time to eat any more. How many kg DM are you expecting them to get from the liquid?

The cost of setting that up for hopfully once in a lifetime shortage wouldnt stack up. Will speak to a few nutrion based people on monday, but 2kgdm if that was a possibillity would pretty help the situation

 

[TomB]

Will they take 3kg on the wheely things?

Are the regumaize/nutramize products safe to feed like that?

 

[Beef farmer]

Will they take 3kg on the wheely things?

Are the regumaize/nutramize products safe to feed like that?

I dont know the possible intake potential

 

[milkloss]

they’re supposed to be self limiting on a high pro urea based molasses but I’m not so sure.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

@happycows . Are you still feeding regumaize through lick balls?