Listeriosis (sheep)

Bury the Trash

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I'm not convinced soil is the problem, unless it's been in the fermenting vat that is silage. My sheep have been wintered on roots for near 30 years, including youngstock that have been breaking their teeth. Plenty of times it's been wet and they will have been ingesting a lot of soil with their fodder. The only time I have ever seen it (before this one) was when they had access to silage that wasn't the greatest, and which, we later found out, someone had been forking the shitty stuff that had been pulled out and trod on, back on top of the bale.:banghead:

If it was a problem from taking soil in, we'd have been having multiple cases every year.
Its in the soil,Its also in the dung which would could contaminate the grazed grass and maybe an opportunistic cut of silage (bale-the big risk owing to their type of fermentation being more suitable for multiplication of the bugs rather than less so in the clamp).
Assuming a good diet mins and vits,another variable then would be the individuals susceptibility to the disease.
 
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Blod

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Out of interest, what makes different species more susceptible ? It seems sheep are far more prone. Is it their gut flora or their soft mouths?
 

Bury the Trash

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:unsure: Sheep are more susceptible to every b thing :rolleyes:,...and cattle are a dam sight easier to feed ...hey what about goats though? do they suffer from it i wonder.
 

Bury the Trash

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Or to have more lambs :rolleyes:.They (goats) are susceptible to it apparently, they would have a hard mouth's though with the rubbish they are capable of eating.
Meanwhile,listeria will also in certain situations be in water or multiplying happily away in a pile of rotting leaves i guess................
 

Bury the Trash

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Keep up! Silage. :rolleyes:
No you keep up...:rolleyes::)....The worst case scenario...wrapped bale stuff - higher ph in (even anerobic conditions) particular has perfect multiplying conditions for the bugs..(different fermentation than clamp)...feed it to them with it getting their eyes and ..bobs yr uncle.Not just soil in the bale either - could be bit of sheep dung say if an extra unplanned cut was taken -having been grazed be too late on.
course it goes without saying Keep it fresh of course and dump non eaten stuff .
 
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Blod

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No, you keep up. :p

I've fed bales to both cattle and sheep. Had the occasional sheep suffer Listeria but no cows. That is not because they graze closer to the ground because they are in the shed :rolleyes:.
 

Bury the Trash

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No, you keep up. :p

I've fed bales to both cattle and sheep. Had the occasional sheep suffer Listeria but no cows. That is not because they graze closer to the ground because they are in the shed :rolleyes:.
sorry i get ya, hmm my (simplistic) opinion is cattle are able to resist it better (big and tough:rolleyes:)or maybe just get a bad eye - im not a cattleman so dont expect anymore on that front.
 

MJT

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Was reading this post thinking "we have never had a proper case of this" Sod's law now have 2 in 2 days, one still walking around and one down and salivating but bright about the eyes. Would tubing the down ewe with glucose and water help at all.
 

MJT

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Ewe number one , like this this morning.
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Ewe number 2 been down since yesterday morning .Not holding any hope for either of them.
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Bury the Trash

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Just lost a nice ewe, went a bit one sided but died a bit too quick i think :unsure:.... v. muddy but...just been on good sward with bit of chic.for a few days from kept tight on poor stubbles.. pk more likely .........pm?..
Good spell of dry and cold would suit right now .
 

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