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[Sid]

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@Frank-the-Wool

 

[Martyn]

who is john cross? cant see it making any diffrent whats so ever to the profitabily of stock by the ability to have more information on tracibility. Most honest farmers update bcms the best they can, am sure there will be loop holes for the bent type. another expence

 

[Sid]

who is john cross? cant see it making any diffrent whats so ever to the profitabily of stock by the ability to have more information on tracibility. Most honest farmers update bcms the best they can, am sure there will be loop holes for the bent type. another expence

Its going to encompass cattle sheep and pigs.
They say bcms is a sticking plaster job atm.

Lets feed in that bcms works as a system but just needs updating!

 

[Martyn]

will end in mess and tears!

 

[Sid]

who is john cross?

No idea

 

[Sid]

will end in mess and tears!

Probably said that about BCMS?

 

[Hilly]

Shame , Bcms is very good.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Its going to encompass cattle sheep and pigs.
They say bcms is a sticking plaster job atm.

Lets feed in that bcms works as a system but just needs updating!

And Horses eventually!

BCMS is very old technology and is run by IBM and has already gone past the end of its life. Yes it still functions but it contains a huge amount of incorrect and out of date information, including hundreds of thousands of animals that are no longer alive. IBM charge the government a small fortune for and changes or access to the data hence a new system is required. We all know that ARAMS doesn't work.

We are running out of numbers on the old system for cattle and there are issues with sheep so there will be a new numbering system which BCMS would be unable to handle and so a new platform is required.
John Cross has been Chairman of the TDUG who have been responsible for the design and functionality of the system. He was a former chairman of AHDB beef and lamb.

 

[JP1]

And Horses eventually!

BCMS is very old technology and is run by IBM and has already gone past the end of its life. Yes it still functions but it contains a huge amount of incorrect and out of date information, including hundreds of thousands of animals that are no longer alive. IBM charge the government a small fortune for and changes or access to the data hence a new system is required. We all know that ARAMS doesn't work.

We are running out of numbers on the old system for cattle and there are issues with sheep so there will be a new numbering system which BCMS would be unable to handle and so a new platform is required.
John Cross has been Chairman of the TDUG who have been responsible for the design and functionality of the system. He was a former chairman of AHDB beef and lamb.

Re-issue all the cattle tag numbers that are now dead. The new animal will have different parent data and dob. Simple

Now go fix ARAMS and leave the Cumbrians alone

 

[Bill the Bass]

And Horses eventually!

BCMS is very old technology and is run by IBM and has already gone past the end of its life. Yes it still functions but it contains a huge amount of incorrect and out of date information, including hundreds of thousands of animals that are no longer alive. IBM charge the government a small fortune for and changes or access to the data hence a new system is required. We all know that ARAMS doesn't work.

We are running out of numbers on the old system for cattle and there are issues with sheep so there will be a new numbering system which BCMS would be unable to handle and so a new platform is required.
John Cross has been Chairman of the TDUG who have been responsible for the design and functionality of the system. He was a former chairman of AHDB beef and lamb.

How can they run out of numbers?

 

[Bob]

How can they run out of numbers?

They cant . Where has this crap come from?

 

[yellowbelly]

Re-issue all the cattle tag numbers that are now dead. The new animal will have different parent data and dob. Simple

Now go fix ARAMS and leave the Cumbrians alone

You can't expect a government department to embrace an easy fix like that.
There'll need endless rounds of meetings and a massive budget to 'blow' on another computer system that won't be up to the job.

 

[sjt01]

who is john cross?

There is a John Cross who milks Jerseys in the Home Counties, well connected, might be him. If so, might be a sensible process

 

[Wooly]

There is a John Cross who milks Jerseys in the Home Counties, well connected, might be him. If so, might be a sensible process

He can set the system up in his spare time between milkings then !!


In my opinion BCMS is great and the people that work there just sort out the clerical errors without thinking you are a crook.

ARMS on the other hand is rubbish !

 

[Treg]

How can they run out of numbers?

Infinity and beyond

 

[Muddyroads]

Unless they can guarantee to be able to identify animals once their heads have been cut off, I spot a flaw in any system.