Loader. Next little project.

Deutzdx3

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So fitting a loader to the deutz. Had it for a fair while. It’s a real pain in the butt, brackets I bought off a MF5455 with joystick and 3rd service.
Loader is(was) a lynkon 420

Cut brackets to suit tractor. Plasma cut lots of new bits. Mostly loader brackets that attach to tractor brackets.

I would have put one on that fitted but couldn’t find one. And I like tinkering.

Will blast and paint loader when finished to look like second pic. It’s only an old deutz but I love it. It’s a you really.

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Deutzdx3

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lynkon 420, if thats a grays you want to redo ALL their welds,, they were the masters of cold lap welds

Found that out. Where the frame for the centre ram was butt welded it was tearing away. I’ll put a photo up shortly. I’m plasma cutting and sliding a tube through the box to add strength. More like modern day loaders.
 

Deutzdx3

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Picture of the brackets on the tractor. Dropped them 8” to make the loader sit properly. Added the bracing. Need to make the Under sump bracket to join both sides then add the axle brackets.

Loader is being reworked to allow twin ram tilt and crowd. With electric 3rd device. Will be fitted and welded by next week. Painted in deutz green soon after that. It has to match. [emoji854]
 

joe soapy

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devon
Had our 420 for a month and it fell apart, grays was a bit rude about my driving skills, I got a report done by a welding inspector who was VERY rude about their welding skills. They replaced it with a 425 which we still use every day. Must have got it back in 78 fitted to a 7245 zipper
 

Deutzdx3

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Wow, that’s not good. From what I hear about grays, they built things well. Apart from loaders apparently. Looking at the loader I don’t rate the butt welding on it hence cutting it up and re welding it.
What’s different about the 425 loader compared to the 420?
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
Quicke were usually a lighter well designed loader made with good steel and good welding.
I have never been quite able to understand where these frameless loader/ bracket get their strength from
 

Deutzdx3

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They join together under the tractor, then have either heavy box or 15-20mm solid bar running to the back axle to take the main stress. I wouldn’t trust it solely bolted to the cast block and front tomb stone. That’s how you snap a tractor in half. That said, that’s how I’m leaving it for the time being as I’m only moving hay with it 1 or 2 at a time so happy once all welded it’ll be strong enough to carry the weight. Not a fan of all the old school bracketry that the linked of bomford and lynkon, tanaco used. Strong but ugly and restrictive to change engine or fuel pump parts.
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
They join together under the tractor, then have either heavy box or 15-20mm solid bar running to the back axle to take the main stress. I wouldn’t trust it solely bolted to the cast block and front tomb stone. That’s how you snap a tractor in half. That said, that’s how I’m leaving it for the time being as I’m only moving hay with it 1 or 2 at a time so happy once all welded it’ll be strong enough to carry the weight. Not a fan of all the old school bracketry that the linked of bomford and lynkon, tanaco used. Strong but ugly and restrictive to change engine or fuel pump parts.

I with you there, although i might be tempted to add a link over the bonnet as grays did on the 425 brackets
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
over the years the grays has had several rams refurbed due to water ingress, not had that with other loaders. Not understood the cause. but not having the pipe attached to the lowest point does allow any water etc to collect in the ram
 
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Deutzdx3

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over the years the grays has had several rams refurbed due to water ingress, not had that with other loaders. Not understood the cause

I’m going to turn this ram around so the seal faces down. I see on a lot of other makes the piston faces down. I can only assume that protects the seal some what from dirt and water ingress.

It’s taken a lot of head scratching to marry this loader up to brackets that aren’t for it and fit those brackets to a tractor they aren’t designed for. I love a challenge. [emoji848]
 

joe soapy

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Location
devon
I’m going to turn this ram around so the seal faces down. I see on a lot of other makes the piston faces down. I can only assume that protects the seal some what from dirt and water ingress.

It’s taken a lot of head scratching to marry this loader up to brackets that aren’t for it and fit those brackets to a tractor they aren’t designed for. I love a challenge. [emoji848]
I thought that by just putting fitting at bottom of ram it would be effectively removing any moisture that accumulated over time.
I suppose 40 years of daily use is bound to show up the odd problem
 

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