Loading shovel v handler

Triggers broom

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Livestock Farmer
Ok bear with me here.

A 2nd hand loader say a 434s v a newer but still 2nd hand loadall 531.

8000hrs v 3500hrs money similar enough to consider both options.

Usability aside more from a reliability stand point. Used on the pit(434 only would use contractor if bought loadall), loading mixer wagon, stacking bales and loading bales on and off trailers and muck spreader not used in many tight spaces.

Not looking at volvo or the like at the moment but I know of a well looked after jcb available atm.

Opinions welcome.
 

james ds

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Ok bear with me here.

A 2nd hand loader say a 434s v a newer but still 2nd hand loadall 531.

8000hrs v 3500hrs money similar enough to consider both options.

Usability aside more from a reliability stand point. Used on the pit(434 only would use contractor if bought loadall), loading mixer wagon, stacking bales and loading bales on and off trailers and muck spreader not used in many tight spaces.

Not looking at volvo or the like at the moment but I know of a well looked after jcb available atm.

Opinions welcome.
I have both here , a komastu 270 and a jcb 530-70 . Two totally differant machines , for yard work including loading bales the 530 wins but on the pit the loader is in a differant league. You need one of each.
 

Triggers broom

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Livestock Farmer
Ah well.... a boy can dream I suppose.
Better be sensible and look at handlers I guess.
Hair brain idea during milking this morning and I thought maybe. If I spot a tidy tm320 might be a happy medium.
 

mf7480

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I thought a shovel was going to be the way on the dairy for loading the feeder, loader dung and pushing up grass. The idea fell apart when I tried a contractors and it was well, well short of reach to load the feeder. Adding toe tip buckets is expensive and doesn’t get around the sheargrab problem.
 

james ds

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I thought a shovel was going to be the way on the dairy for loading the feeder, loader dung and pushing up grass. The idea fell apart when I tried a contractors and it was well, well short of reach to load the feeder. Adding toe tip buckets is expensive and doesn’t get around the sheargrab problem.
What height is your feeder? Thought loading it would be wee buns for a shovel
 

dave mountain

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What height is your feeder? Thought loading it would be wee buns for a shovel
most shovels are offered with short boom or long boom, a decent sized shovel with long boom would be fine.
trouble is most are bought new by quarries etc who almost always spec short boom so they can fit a bigger bucket, so unless your buying new the long booms can be difficult to find
 

mf7480

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What height is your feeder? Thought loading it would be wee buns for a shovel

3.2m. Most shovels are 3.5m lift, 3.7 with high reach. Trouble is with high reach is it makes them a bit awkward.

You obviously need much more lift height than the height of the feeder to tip the bucket.
 
Hope you got good concrete ,
most shovels are offered with short boom or long boom, a decent sized shovel with long boom would be fine.
trouble is most are bought new by quarries etc who almost always spec short boom so they can fit a bigger bucket, so unless your buying new the long booms can be difficult to find
hope he has good concrete if getting a shovel , better with loadall
 
3.2m. Most shovels are 3.5m lift, 3.7 with high reach. Trouble is with high reach is it makes them a bit awkward.

You obviously need much more lift height than the height of the feeder to tip the bucket.
The thing that bugs me about loadalls etc, is that the boom is always being pushed in and out to load the feeder. I work with a tractor and loader and can fill the feeder no problem, yet the uncles loadall can't reach it.
 

dave mountain

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3.2m. Most shovels are 3.5m lift, 3.7 with high reach. Trouble is with high reach is it makes them a bit awkward.

You obviously need much more lift height than the height of the feeder to tip the bucket.
you dont need much more height, unless you are heaping up the trailer (which you wont be with a feeder wagon). when they load salt etc into artics they are only just off the boom touching the sides. difference is they are driven by a professional machinery operator, not a professional dairy farmer who occasionally jumps on a machine.
 

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