London Uni Campus Beef Ban

Hampton

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BASIS
Location
Shropshire
How about they also ban all lighting and heating on the campus that exceeds the output of their solar panels... and in order to reduce the biggest driver for environmental impact ie population growth, all students must pledge a lifetime of celibacy.
Or alternatively ban alcohol! After all that’s a carbon emission that produces very little benefit (aside from inhibition lowering and an increase in casual sex)
 

Bill the Bass

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Nothing wrong with old Polytechs thank you. Just because an establishment is or is not a big brass place like Cambridge or a Russell group university does not mean much. I think you will find a character recently posted a research based questionnaire on this very forum and hailed from one of your vaunted establishments. Suffice to say I dont think many people were impressed.

Nope nothing wrong with them at all but they should have been kept as technical colleges, the world and our work force would have been better for it. But Goldmsiths University? perhaps you could point us to some peer reviewed publications they have produced on climate change or land use and then we can start to have a serious discussion.

It is just so obviously a cynical grab for bums on seats at clearing.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Nope nothing wrong with them at all but they should have been kept as technical colleges, the world and our work force would have been better for it. But Goldmsiths University? perhaps you could point us to some peer reviewed publications they have produced on climate change or land use and then we can start to have a serious discussion.

It is just so obviously a cynical grab for bums on seats at clearing.
Indeed. They may well be having more difficulty than usual in recruiting foreign students this year. Perhaps they think that pandering to the loony fringe will yield some extra domestic bums on seats.
 

Rowland

Member
This place seams to be failing rapidly by the university rankings table
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Agrivator

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Dear Sir/Madam,

I have just read in the paper that you are banning beef consumption in your university refectory. I do hope that the press have got the "wrong end of the stick", as any examination of available research would show that climate change is ameliorated by grazing livestock. I can not believe that an educational establishment would blindly follow the blinkered views of the vegan minority.

If I am not wrong and you do wish to ban beef, I think it is a terrible shame to act in such a mindless way. If I wished to do my bit to stop climate change, I would tender that you should not take foreign students (air travel), sell any rice products (rice production causes great release of climate gasses), obviously install drinking fountains and ban all bottled beverages. I wonder too if there is any rationale for alcohol, as we can all live without it and it's production uses resources but aids nothing in our continued existence.

I could give a myriad of reasons why grass fed, local, meat is good for the environment, but just study work done by Alan Savory.

yours

First class. Can you amend it as a letter and send it to every newspaper in the UK?

But the NFU might already have beaten you to it. :rolleyes:
 
Update today folks.... The University of Strathclyde Students' Union, where I'm doing my doctorate, have put up a survey asking if we too should ban meat sales. Current results are 65/35 against a ban but the comments are dominated by the vegan extremists. I'm fighting them where I can but it's a losing battle. I don't want to let myself down but at the same time I'm astounded how little these undergraduates and postgraduates appreciate science. I have someone studying "BSc Biomedical Science" telling me that we cut down the rainforests to grow crops, load the crops onto jet aircraft and fly it across the atlantic to feed the cows so that we can eat them.
 

Hfd Cattle

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
First class. Can you amend it as a letter and send it to every newspaper in the UK?

But the NFU might already have beaten you to it. :rolleyes:
The NFU won't have had enough meetings and discussions yet to decide whether to act or not ......mind you the Uni is in London which is where they like to spend their expenses on meetings ....
 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Kids are being brainwashed at school. See it with my teen grandson. Every opportunity I get I attempt to counteract some of it, but my brain is not as sharp as his is being made - IMO in the wrong direction :(
If it was in other illegal subjects or practices they were being "groomed" or "brain washed" or " coherst" into there be a full investigation into it ?
 

Scrow

Member
Goldsmiths aren't being influenced by a vegan minority they ARE the vegan minority. Goldsmiths is notoriously a vege/vegan/alt/lgbtq++ blue hair brigade type institution

The queues at the burger vans at any agricultural show or any music festival suggest that the vast majority of people aren't going to give up their beef burgers just yet.
 
Location
southwest
I wonder what learning resources the students use? No doubt, they'll all have at least a laptop. Made of plastic and metals mined predominantly in the third world, probably assembled in China, before being shipped across the planet they think they are saving.

And what will replace beef on the menu? Italian pasta, imported fruit, almond milk from the intensive, irrigated Californian desert, African olive oil?
 

Cowcorn

Member
Mixed Farmer
But what do we expect?

Someone with a PhD in maths or physics can waltz into being a teacher in a secondary school right this second, might not have the foggiest about the real world but you can get in front of children!
Answer them better to give history lessons on how food was rationed and scarce during the second world war and for a time after it . How domestic production had been run down during the twenties and thirties in favour of cheap imports . When Hitler went on tour the the shortcomings of such policies were exposed . Nah not going to happen people are to well fed a good dose of hunger is what these brainless twits need !!!
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Update today folks.... The University of Strathclyde Students' Union, where I'm doing my doctorate, have put up a survey asking if we too should ban meat sales. Current results are 65/35 against a ban but the comments are dominated by the vegan extremists. I'm fighting them where I can but it's a losing battle. I don't want to let myself down but at the same time I'm astounded how little these undergraduates and postgraduates appreciate science. I have someone studying "BSc Biomedical Science" telling me that we cut down the rainforests to grow crops, load the crops onto jet aircraft and fly it across the atlantic to feed the cows so that we can eat them.
As already mentioned, ask them if they are going to ban alcohol first. It may have escaped their attention, but alcohol IS NOT a staple food, and CO2 is produced during its fermentation. Ask them what they are going to do with all the soyabean meal, rapeseed meal etc. If they aren't going tp feed it to livestock.
 

rusty

Member
Goldsmiths aren't being influenced by a vegan minority they ARE the vegan minority. Goldsmiths is notoriously a vege/vegan/alt/lgbtq++ blue hair brigade type institution

The queues at the burger vans at any agricultural show or any music festival suggest that the vast majority of people aren't going to give up their beef burgers just yet.
Wife's cousin is a lecturer at Goldsmiths. He's a vegan LGBT Corbyn fan!
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Ask them what they are going to do with all the soyabean meal, rapeseed meal etc. If they aren't going tp feed it to livestock.

Soya should be banned as ruminant feed. Red meat should be promoted on it's benefits to the environment, it's high welfare and quality standards and nutritional benefits in a healthy balanced diet. There is plenty of research already out there to prove all these facts, it just needs to be put together in a publicly digestible form.
 

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