Do these exist? Even the UC4 "guarantees" don't count for much. I have a large amount of stock fencing to do on arable reversion land, partly funded by Countryside Stewardship. The prescription does say that I have to use softwood posts with an "appropriate treatment." No suggestions of Clipex please, however good it is!
Long lasting softwood fence posts
- Thread starter Brisel
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Inky
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- Essex / G.London
UC4 is the minimum you'd want to use, you can use hardwood posts under CSS. I use chestnut for everything now.
- Location
- Nottinghamshire, uk
We’ve had some creosoted strainers from mcveigh parker that are good. Done the rest in clip ex though....
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
They dont exist, as you will find out no doubt.
I wouldn't use 'tanalised' for anything in the ground now, (well, unless its stuff I've sawn from gear I know hardly needs treating anyway...)
In your shoes I'd go pressure treated with creosote if you're going to use softwood.
I had a German pal in the kitchen recently, who tells me his farmer friends buy lorry loads of properly treated posts from an eastern Euro country.
They can't buy it in Germany -haven't been able to for years- but they can legally get together and buy it from abroad.
what a lot of bollix it all is.
In your shoes I'd go pressure treated with creosote if you're going to use softwood.
I had a German pal in the kitchen recently, who tells me his farmer friends buy lorry loads of properly treated posts from an eastern Euro country.
They can't buy it in Germany -haven't been able to for years- but they can legally get together and buy it from abroad.
what a lot of bollix it all is.
UC4 is the "best" that I could find with a 15 year "guarantee".
Just starting to replace a few after 12 years
Alternatively, use the cheapest uc3 2" machine rounds. They'll have been dip tanalised at quite a high moisture content. Provided they fulfill the terms of the scheme, you'll get paid.
However, use creosoted redwood strainers, and X form net from McVeigh Parker. Pull it properly tight to the centre with the net tied, not stapled, to the strainers.
Then when the posts rot after 5 years, put in clipex stakes and you've a good fence that should last another 30 years.....
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- East Yorkshire
UC4 is the "best" that I could find with a 15 year "guarantee".
Just starting to replace a few after 12 years
Alternatively, use the cheapest uc3 2" machine rounds. They'll have been dip tanalised at quite a high moisture content. Provided they fulfill the terms of the scheme, you'll get paid.
However, use creosoted redwood strainers, and X form net from McVeigh Parker. Pull it properly tight to the centre with the net tied, not stapled, to the strainers.
Then when the posts rot after 5 years, put in clipex stakes and you've a good fence that should last another 30 years.....
So have you bothered claiming against the 15yr guarantee? I suspect not: perhaps if you did, it would help to encourage improved industry standards.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Ive fence posts in the ground must be 50 years old in better way than alot 5 years old, 15 years is nothing for a fence. Id be very sceptical that any claims will succeed.
- Location
- North Wales
The only real option you have is creosote.
I wouldn't trust any tanalised timber to even last 10 years even if some would last to 15, supposedly.
Creo materials should add to the cost of the whole fence by 15-20% over tanalised but should triple the life expectancy.
I like DrDunc's idea to set it up for clipex ready in the future but it would be cheaper to use creosote from the start.
I wouldn't trust any tanalised timber to even last 10 years even if some would last to 15, supposedly.
Creo materials should add to the cost of the whole fence by 15-20% over tanalised but should triple the life expectancy.
I like DrDunc's idea to set it up for clipex ready in the future but it would be cheaper to use creosote from the start.
Hilly
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- Scottish Borders.
Dipping sh!t in creosote dose not make it good, poor quality uk timber wont last creosoted or not.
UC4 is the "best" that I could find with a 15 year "guarantee".
Just starting to replace a few after 12 years
Alternatively, use the cheapest uc3 2" machine rounds. They'll have been dip tanalised at quite a high moisture content. Provided they fulfill the terms of the scheme, you'll get paid.
However, use creosoted redwood strainers, and X form net from McVeigh Parker. Pull it properly tight to the centre with the net tied, not stapled, to the strainers.
Then when the posts rot after 5 years, put in clipex stakes and you've a good fence that should last another 30 years.....
This was what I had in mind, but was naively hoping that decent posts that lasted do exist.
Goatherderess
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- North Dorset
When I fenced using the flood fund money, I argued that even though they weren't on the list of approved products, hardwood chestnut fence posts were necessary as softwood rots under water and in boggy clay ground. They agreed and the price was only about 5% more and they will still be OK in 15 years unlike the normal posts which last about 5...
Nearly
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- North of York
As long as the invoice says 'softwood' no inspectors would recognise chestnut.
they shouldn't be 'dipped'.
The ones we're using are -as I understand, pressure treated in the same manner as the tanalising...only with a tank of creo instead of green p*ss
Most of it seems to be welsh grown larch/DF I'd guess (has evident heartwood, knot whorls too small to be pine...maybe)
Stakes cut in half should have deep penetration.
Timber quality is another matter, and i'm happy to go there if you've got a day or two to spare.....
- Location
- North Wales
Buy scandanavian slow grown pine pressure treated in creosote then.