renewablejohn
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- Location
- lancs
Will keep you in mind.
Long lasting softwood fence posts
- Thread starter Brisel
- Start date
Will keep you in mind.
Is there any way of knowing difference between pressure treated and dipped before you purchase. Fear I have with creosote posts is convincing my customers that the extra expense is worth it then 10 years down the line that they would be as well with the s**t tanalisied posts. Even the guarantee offered is a risk. Could end up carrying the can for that myself. Think most customers could be convinced to spend the money with a bit of persuading as they’ve all experienced the 7 - 12 year life time of timber. But I would need to be sure they were the real deal when purchasing or I’ll just be making problems for myself.
- Location
- North Wales
Buy some and cut them in half. You need to have confidence where your supplier is sourcing them from and isn't just buying on price to suit his margin.
RushesToo
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- Location
- Fingringhoe
This might be useful as a guide to what to start with before you treat it:
From here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxms50fxkoutty7/5000-timber-durability-chart.jpg
From here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxms50fxkoutty7/5000-timber-durability-chart.jpg
RushesToo
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- Location
- Fingringhoe
In general anything that grows in a very cold climate [siberia like cold] will have greater durability, the softwood trees grow so little every year they are comparable to hardwoods.
organicguy
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- Location
- North East of the south west
Creosote posts tops from my latest batch, 6in down the post. Bottom right is one that has been stood in my dip tank for 3 months. Is the treatment deep enough?Any photos of octoposts? OG
Timbersupplier
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The varying degree of treatment is due to the heartwood, on 2 pieces the heart is almost on the edge of the piece. The taller piece looks very similar to white wood which does not take creosote well at all and has large growth rings and little heartwood.
Timbersupplier
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Ask them to supply the impregnating certificate for that particular batch and back up their claim and prove the claim,if it is uk supplier visit them and see the facilities. You can always deal with uk treaters who happily show you round and explain the process and show you the tanks at work etc.
- Location
- North Wales
Look poorly treated to me, you can see the line of the heart wood and softwood in the the two mid sized pieces in the middle. Should be treated up to the heart wood if done properly. The tall one top left, looks treated poorly unless it is the type of wood not taking much treatment.
renewablejohn
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- Location
- lancs
That treatment is truly pathetic. Need to run up and down the posts with the smallest drill you can find and drill in 2 inches. Then soak in your trough for a couple of months then you will have a proper job.
- Location
- Devon
renewablejohn
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- Location
- lancs
That type will be easy enough to extrude with recycled plastic. Certainly better for recycled plastic than the injection moulded plastic with metal spikes.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I think we use a different chart, class 3 are usually rails, class 4 for posts.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Oak post last so why not many hardwood posts about?
- Location
- North Wales
Cost
- Location
- South Wales UK
But replacing softwood every few years costs too.
- Location
- North Wales
Try telling that to a farmer.
pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
Do you have a UK supplier?
- Location
- Devon
No, I was kinda hoping @renewablejohn might be interested as he seemed to be keen on making the other plastic posts.
If anyone knows of a supplier/ importer let me know.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
I put in deer fencing exactly 30 years ago, I only kept the deer enterprise for 10 years but the fencing is still here .I got sitka spruce posts properely dried and then pressure treated (with what I dont know supposed to be tanalised) but 95% of the post are intact.It really is incredibile as most of the tanalised spruce posts only last about 5 years aprox