I see on some ransomes match ploughs that they run longer rear landslide from standard is that a preference or a advantage ?
ok it made sense to have a deeper landside ,lot of the ransomes landsides were only between 41/2 - 5 inch ok for grassland ploughing ,looks like I'm going to make a new one after this weekend deeper and longer and see how we go,,is there any point putting a deeper one on the front ?
Million dollar question. Bit like the “which is best - a 59 or an 86” both have advantages but on balance the longer one 86 is the best.
The defininite yes part of it is that it needs to be at least 150 deep - otherwise some advantages - some disadvantages. A lot of people remove the heel DMD4 from ordinary landsides to aid penetration and make it easier to maintain depth. On all my ploughs mine are longer and have the heel on. They also have a cutback at the rear which is 4” which acts as a depth marker for first time across. The main advantage is that the longer ones definitely run truer and straighter. Just fitted new longer version of the original to my RSLD No12 which is 150 mm longer than original - as prescribed by my cousin.
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Is very pretty but will be chopped!Million dollar question. Bit like the “which is best - a 59 or an 86” both have advantages but on balance the longer one 86 is the best.
The defininite yes part of it is that it needs to be at least 150 deep - otherwise some advantages - some disadvantages. A lot of people remove the heel DMD4 from ordinary landsides to aid penetration and make it easier to maintain depth. On all my ploughs mine are longer and have the heel on. They also have a cutback at the rear which is 4” which acts as a depth marker for first time across. The main advantage is that the longer ones definitely run truer and straighter. Just fitted new longer version of the original to my RSLD No12 which is 150 mm longer than original - as prescribed by my cousin.
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If you are ploughing just an acre a week you could make it from aluminium!I make my own landsides for my TS59, 6" deep and 26" long. They are square at the rear end with no heal but have a 40mm bar on the bottom at right angles wihich finishes about 4" short of the end and acts as a strengthener because there are no struts or braces.. Thus with a long top link the rear end of the landside can cut in a little without lifting the plough out. Standard RSLD landsides are short and most people make up longer steel ones. I use digger bucket steel, which is hard wearing but machinable.
For remarks like this a head full of pulp is quite sufficient.If you are ploughing just an acre a week you could make it from aluminium!
Molecular structure of the metal determines the lubrication required to reduce friction and thus wear. Aluminium has a high coefficient of friction and landsides suffer high pressures and practically no lubrication.Inside your tractor engine there are important bearings made of white metal, a cousin to solder and several of bronze too. A landslide resists the side-thrust of inversion whether made of laser cut digger steel or aluminium. Aggression cannot beat physics.
Worn boards always seem to run better on a fergie, I often wonder about cutting a bit off the lower rear section to see how it performs....just wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it!I extended the one on my Fergie and in so doing I only had 2" wide strips of steel so welded 3 together to extend it by 6", I managed to get it to pull by mistake when I welded it up, so it actually has a very slight curve towards the rear and the improvement is marked. It pulls straight with ease, as before it always wanted to steer the tractor towards the ploughed work no matter what I did or tried, moving the plough on the cross shaft both ways and running the shaft to narrow or wide, it just wouldnt pull straight but now it's a joy to use (if a Fergie ever can be!!!)
I know, they dont work well in dry conditions though, as Keith Williams has really struggled in the dry but last w-end after a bit of rain he was back on form. I have just built up another plough with some very worn boards that I had kicking around, they cleaned up well as were not too badly pitted so will be interesting to see how it goes. His prodigy has ground the back of his boards and seems to do quite well! I have a picture of Keith's boards, one wonders when a board is not in fact a board. He used another plough last year at one match and struggled badly but I guess his old plough is like an old pair of slippers to him. I beat the pair of them the other weekend, so they are beatable for sure!!Worn boards always seem to run better on a fergie, I often wonder about cutting a bit off the lower rear section to see how it performs....just wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it!
Just worn off over time, he has had the plough since new (and when he was a lad!) Think Keith is 82 now, a bloody good ploughman and a nicer person you couldnt meet, think he's been National Champion 15 times, he used to do a lot of trailer ploughing and won some big comp in Finland many moons ago!Wow is that worn off then or cut