Lorry driver shortage

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Just seen an ad for an HGV driver here in Norfolk £ 57,000 per annum.

That'll be likely loaded with Night Out and Meal Money. Then it'll include running like a dog and dumping the truck on a Saturday morning or afternoon every other week to enjoy your day and bit off.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
What I'd like to see happen:
Businesses recognise that their drivers have been chronically underpaid for years, and begin to offer more secure contracts, more attractive wages and better employment conditions. The increased cost of this will borne by both the employer and the consumer. This will lead to inflation, but will only in part make up for the many years where inflation was held at artificially low levels due to a large immigrant workforce willing to work for bugger all. Longer term, businesses will begin to reassess their complex supply chains and re-localise some aspects of their manufacture and distribution.

What will happen:
Employers go crying to the government and demand a relaxation of the visa rules to keep the flow of cheap labour running. Existing drivers may see a temporary uptick in wages (poaching bonuses etc.) but it'll be back to business as usual just as soon as the MPs have had enough of being berated for allowing Nandos to run out of chicken and agree to a "temporary emergency relaxation" which will almost certainly last indefinitely.
Nailed it 👍
 

Frodo

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Location
Scotland (east)
in the Victorian times there seemed to be a bit of a culture of using wealth to better the community (Rountree, Cadbury, Carnegie etc) rather than racing to be the first billionaire to go into space (or to try to patent the building blocks of life and develop fake meat!), so there was more charitable giving anyway.
To be fair bill gates and a few others have signed pledges to give most of their wealth away, just we are a bit to cynical to believe them.

Likewise some of the Victorian philanthropists had alteria motives such as stable work force or a fast track to heaven.
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
That'll be likely loaded with Night Out and Meal Money. Then it'll include running like a dog and dumping the truck on a Saturday morning or afternoon every other week to enjoy your day and bit off.

The latest wheeze is starting Sunday evening and not finishing till Saturday morning, meaning the driver can still get his 45hrs off every other weekend.


Or, new contacts which dictate "any 5 from 7" so you don't even get consistent days off.
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
The latest wheeze is starting Sunday evening and not finishing till Saturday morning, meaning the driver can still get his 45hrs off every other weekend.


Or, new contacts which dictate "any 5 from 7" so you don't even get consistent days off.

Owned.. Feck that.

Down the road Sunday to pick up or be parked ready to tip and tip Friday late and run in Saturday... Squeezed like a Lemon.

All the time living out of a Wendy house.
 
Lots of little family farms, and no toilets for delivery drivers
Got a double seater EC in the garden 😉

Seriously though we have a WC and hand wash basin in the boiler house near the office door accessible from outside with a highly visible sign on the door. Have had it used by the odd parcel delivery driver but they’ve always asked first ( No need to ) Most truck drivers seem to have their own facilities ..
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Not just this country. Its all over europe as I've friends in Italy, France and Germany and they are all reporting the same.
Cobblers!
No shortage here of anything. Just had a part, next day from Germany.👍 Administration slow but it's August.
Edit. Except British section in supermarkets, according to my Mrs, which are empty.
 
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le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Says it all 🤣
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Location
southwest
Some of these posts make me smile.

People saying how bad working terms and conditions are for truck drivers, poor pay, having to work every other Saturday, 60 hr week, lack of welfare facilities etc. Sounds to me like most jobs in farming!

And don't bother saying farming "can't afford" to pay better, as that's just what the transport industry have been saying for years!
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
With Regards to above.... I know someone that used to charge a 6 x 2 Scania & Hiab rigid out at £25 hour to a large plant hire company to run Buckets Containers small plant spares etc around the country.

Needless to say , today he doesn't do it anymore and I reckon he's not a pot to pee in.

Edited to add.... back then the driver was on £9,80 an hour..

£25 hour..... thats averaging at 50p mile or less,,, Bargain
 

bluebell

Member
on the otherhand of lorry driver shortage? all this stuff? that we all now buy on the internet gets or has to be delivered by a man in a van? seems by the amount that comes into my place everday, most are young males from a country thats not got english as its spoken language? it seems at the moment you can come here into the UK and start earning money driving a van to deliver this stuff we all now buy?
 

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