Low disturbance sub soiler

[grandpapete]

Can anybody suggest what Low disturbance sub soiler to use to assist drainage before we drill with a claydon drill?
We have a classic sumo and someone said they make LD legs for it. any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
Pete.

 

[clbarclay]

A mole plough?

 

[Deere342]

A mole plough?

I assume this was mean't to be humorous, would you get any shatter from a mole plough?

 

[clbarclay]

You can get quite a bit of shatter with a mole plough, depending on how dry the soil is at the time, though it still won't shatter the whole profile like a proper subsoiler will.

It was meant as a serious question though about what the drainage issue actually and the nature of the soils inquestion. If it's pan or compacted layer preventing water infiltrate down deeper into dry soil bellow, then use a subsoiler. If however the issue is excess water not draining away once it has full infiltrated, then lateral drainage like mole ploughing or tile drains can be far more effective than just subsoiling.

 

[Deere342]

Thank you, I was asking as we have a Ransomes mole plough/subsoiler. May be worth an experiment on some tough areas of pasture. We have had water standing on higher ground suggesting the soil could be compacted and not letting it drain away.

Sorry grandpapete completely highjacked your thread!

 

[E_B]

Can anybody suggest what Low disturbance sub soiler to use to assist drainage before we drill with a claydon drill?
We have a classic sumo and someone said they make LD legs for it. any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
Pete.

Mzuri Rehab would be pretty useful.

 

[benny6910]

Can anybody suggest what Low disturbance sub soiler to use to assist drainage before we drill with a claydon drill?
We have a classic sumo and someone said they make LD legs for it. any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
Pete.

I use these’s MDT points on my trio, I had to get complete new legs but I’m very pleased with them compared to the normal trio points.

 

[holmes65]

We have found having a disc in front of the leg makes a big difference to the amount of disturbance.

 

[ridger]

I'd worry about stone drains with a subsoiler

 

[hutchy143211]

Can anybody suggest what Low disturbance sub soiler to use to assist drainage before we drill with a claydon drill?
We have a classic sumo and someone said they make LD legs for it. any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
Pete.

That'll probably be the metcalfe NG leg which they can be converted to. We have just got an omni til that has them on and honestly can't rate them highly enough. Lower power requirement great lift and depending on configuration very low disturbance. Plowman's can provide the legs as replacements for trios but if you want a seperate machine I couldn't recommend them enough for a omni lift subsoiler. Their products and quality and first class and got to be one of the best companies out there to deal with and customise your machine bespokely.

 

[DieselRob]

I’ve bought a Heva stealth low disturbance subsoiler this time, nice machine with hydraulic depth and disc adjustment. Available with hydraulic reset if on really stoney land, I opted for the shear pin model though. Sink it to the hilt and it’ll go down to 14” but I got told off for doing it, they suggest an operating depth to 12” max

 

[Two Tone]

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The Weaving ultra-low disturbance LD Top-Soiler has been specifically designed to complement minimum tillage farming systems. Find you tillage equipment today.

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[Deutzdx3]

one of these any good. Has leading disc. LD legs. Mole leg or michel leg depending what you want to do. Make them mostly for vineyards.

 

[Wombat]

View attachment 957546 one of these any good. Has leading disc. LD legs. Mole leg or michel leg depending what you want to do. Make them mostly for vineyards.

How much?

 

[Deutzdx3]

How much?

What size are you looking for?

 

[Wombat]

What size are you looking for?

3 leg 2.x m?

 

[EddieB]

I’m in the market for a LD type of machine too. I don’t need to go too deep, probably loosening the top 6-8”, I’ve got a flatlift for more intensive stuff. Any user experience on the Weaving LD? I’m guessing perhaps not as strong as some?

 

[Jerry]

Another vote fur a he-va stealth, only used in grass so far but will run it in front of a Claydon in autumn.

very well out together and built. Heavy when lifted though as roller long way back.

 

[farmerman]

Sumo gls .
Does what you’ll need simple as that , sumo build quality, and British too.

 

[Deere342]

View attachment 957546 one of these any good. Has leading disc. LD legs. Mole leg or michel leg depending what you want to do. Make them mostly for vineyards.

What horsepower requirement is needed to pull the two leg version?