- Location
- Boroughbridge, North Yorkshire
The strange thing is that we have never even had a problem with compaction showing in the previous years tramlines.
Low disturbance subsoiling in a DD system
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yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
I moledrain in the spring pre emergence of the beans
I also find that in dry springs the top 2 inches can go from too wet to too dry very quickly when it is too dry drill penetration on wheelings has to be maintained in future I am now planning to chop straw
This may delay drying so patience is needed
Drilling a few days too early gives worse result than drilling under the optimum conditions later
Lighter textured soils can be more susceptible to compaction and go hard
These soil types do not crack like heavy land and can be more susceptible when conditions are not dry enough this may not be easy recognised till the ground is hard in a dry time
Last year we had beans that did not perform and especially showed this in wheeled areas these have not shown up in the following wheat crop due to the deep cracking last year
On lighter land the low disturbance subsoiler could solve the problem
Worms on this land do not do well in dry years
I also find that in dry springs the top 2 inches can go from too wet to too dry very quickly when it is too dry drill penetration on wheelings has to be maintained in future I am now planning to chop straw
This may delay drying so patience is needed
Drilling a few days too early gives worse result than drilling under the optimum conditions later
Lighter textured soils can be more susceptible to compaction and go hard
These soil types do not crack like heavy land and can be more susceptible when conditions are not dry enough this may not be easy recognised till the ground is hard in a dry time
Last year we had beans that did not perform and especially showed this in wheeled areas these have not shown up in the following wheat crop due to the deep cracking last year
On lighter land the low disturbance subsoiler could solve the problem
Worms on this land do not do well in dry years
wellingtonfarmer
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- Location
- Herefordshire
What depth do you stop worrying about compaction?
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
Currently using controlled traffic so combine leave 2 24 inch marks every 9 m 1 is on the outside edge of the tramlines
Trailers stay on tramlines drill tractor is on the same lines but slightly inside
This levels out any tramline rutting which last summer had the deepest widest cracks
Land that does not crack needs more care with maintaining the worms and organic matter
wellingtonfarmer
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Sorry I meant how deep would compaction not occur, how deep does a hole have to be dug to see if compaction is there
Deeper than the subsoiler leg will go. Drain level. It's best not to look sometimes!
Mark C
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
Even Claydon recommend ploughing for beans
Mark C
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- Location
- Bedfordshire
I used the 'p' word, shoot me now!
Aye and dont even need a drill, just broadcast on seed beans, then plough in (shallow )...
Noway , nothing but peace and
brother...
clbarclay
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- Location
- Worcestershire
I wonder whether anyone has tried putting a hopper and metering unit on a plough or just used one with a front mounted spreader, so they could call it direct drilling?Aye and dont even need a drill, just broadcast on seed beans, then plough in (shallow )...
Noway , nothing but peace and
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clbarclay
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- Location
- Worcestershire
On the whole beans have been on of the more reliable crops to no-ish till here. Father always talked about compaction and beans, but that was about minimizing the tractor wheelings on the subsequent passes after ploughing them in to try to level it out a bit.
The main thing with since we started direct drilling them has been making use they are in and covered. For the last few years I have been no-ish tilling them with a pig tail tine drill and then then harrowing across the slots to make sure they are covered. This year though I now have a GD to use, so there should be a lot less surface disturbance. I might use both drills though, for a comparison.
The main thing with since we started direct drilling them has been making use they are in and covered. For the last few years I have been no-ish tilling them with a pig tail tine drill and then then harrowing across the slots to make sure they are covered. This year though I now have a GD to use, so there should be a lot less surface disturbance. I might use both drills though, for a comparison.
Spray off , broadcast, plough ,first week in November, nothing done to it after ( go skiing) the plough.
) the plough. 
Fat hen
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Change your agronomist. My ex agronomist used to start sentences “the problem with direct drilling...”
How did your beans do after grass
- Location
- North Yorkshire
I have found that due to the awful back end last year my souls have tightened in places when you dig it was breaking horizontally
Mostly in poor wheat crops
I think I will continue to drill my spring beans with the dts they seem to thrive on it
Mostly in poor wheat crops
I think I will continue to drill my spring beans with the dts they seem to thrive on it
They were ok.
Leather jackets and wireworm thinned them somewhat.
But they grew like bloody hell.
I’ve got some to put in after grass, was going to drill and spray off after. What do you think. 200kg/ha?
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Please answer this then , potato field , nice square field nice loamy soils , have lifted dry , half wet , some will remember me ploughing a foot of slop , and drilled with spring barley ,
Now after harvest we put 6 ton acre chicken poo on and Subsoiler Whole field , put mustard and oil raffish in with knight 700 press with legs well in , the what was wet lifted and badly rutted wet side I Subsoiler twice
The twice worked side is 10 times the crop of other side ,
why who knows will take a pic later it’s all had same chemistry and muck
Now after harvest we put 6 ton acre chicken poo on and Subsoiler Whole field , put mustard and oil raffish in with knight 700 press with legs well in , the what was wet lifted and badly rutted wet side I Subsoiler twice
The twice worked side is 10 times the crop of other side ,
why who knows will take a pic later it’s all had same chemistry and muck