Low Input Grassland

[RGTLincs]

Our permanent pasture has come back as a site of archaeological interest so rules us out of a herbal ley, have many people gone for the LIG1 - Low input grassland option, and if so can anyone make out what the N limit is?

 

[Henarar]

we have LIG1 won't put any N on it

 

[serf]

Our permanent pasture has come back as a site of archaeological interest so rules us out of a herbal ley, have many people gone for the LIG1 - Low input grassland option, and if so can anyone make out what the N limit is?

Wonder how many more low input PP fields are going to come back with a " special tag " in 3 years time and void them " useless" after folks have taken the coin !

 

[e3120]

Not worth the compromise here. The combination of low input, no feeding and classification risk is just too anti farming.

What's really annoying is that getting credit for it being a clover ley is also disallowed, despite being full of the stuff. Back to their 'arable' thinking where something doesn't exist unless you establish it.

 

[Henarar]

Not worth the compromise here. The combination of low input, no feeding and classification risk is just too anti farming.

What's really annoying is that getting credit for it being a clover ley is also disallowed, despite being full of the stuff. Back to their 'arable' thinking where something doesn't exist unless you establish it.

you can claim for existing clover

 

[livestock 1]

Not worth the compromise here. The combination of low input, no feeding and classification risk is just too anti farming.

What's really annoying is that getting credit for it being a clover ley is also disallowed, despite being full of the stuff. Back to their 'arable' thinking where something doesn't exist unless you establish it.

Exactly

 

[livestock 1]

you can claim for existing clover

You don’t get any credit for doing something unless you haven’t been doing it previously

 

[livestock 1]

In other words I have more herbal stuff more birds more wildlife more walkers than most but they aren’t interested because I was doing it before sfi

 

[e3120]

you can claim for existing clover

Sadly not if it's SHINE. The OP has a site of archaeological interest, which rules out herbal leys and clover.

 

[Regenerator1]

You don’t get any credit for doing something unless you haven’t been doing it previously

Those that have done the least now get the most.... it is an appaulling way to treat good farmers??

 

[Henarar]

You don’t get any credit for doing something unless you haven’t been doing it previously

you may not get credit but you can get a payment

 

[livestock 1]

you may not get credit but you can get a payment

No payment

 

[livestock 1]

‘Why pay for something you are doing anyway’ was what I was told

 

[Jackov Altraids]

‘Why pay for something you are doing anyway’ was what I was told

Hence my plan to environmentally vandalise this farm.
It is the only way to make it/ them pay.

 

[livestock 1]

Hence my plan to environmentally vandalise this farm.
It is the only way to make it/ them pay.

Yes however I’m currently doing the maximum environmentally on most of my land but only worth £4 an acre apparently

 

[Henarar]

‘Why pay for something you are doing anyway’ was what I was told

I think you were told wrong,
we are getting paid for existing clover in grassland also existing low input grassland,
oh and the hedges and trees and they were here before,
had a couple of people out from ADAS they said it was all fine, plus they sorted the management plans and soil testing which we get paid for.
all added up to more than our full rate BPS was and won't have to change our farming

 

[livestock 1]

I think you were told wrong,
we are getting paid for existing clover in grassland also existing low input grassland,
oh and the hedges and trees and they were here before,
had a couple of people out from ADAS they said it was all fine, plus they sorted the management plans and soil testing which we get paid for.
all added up to more than our full rate BPS was and won't have to change our farming

Hill land

 

[livestock 1]

I think you were told wrong,
we are getting paid for existing clover in grassland also existing low input grassland,
oh and the hedges and trees and they were here before,
had a couple of people out from ADAS they said it was all fine, plus they sorted the management plans and soil testing which we get paid for.
all added up to more than our full rate BPS was and won't have to change our farming

No hedges at our altitude, no clover on a lot of it. Can you imagine trying to scratch clover into moorland and hill bent grass? White ground? Peaty soil is too acidic for clover. No trees on that ground either.
We will make a go of it when it becomes available to us but I think it’s an insult setting a scheme away that some have been in for over two years that still isn’t available for us in harder ground. I also think it’s an insult that we are offered only 6% of what many others are getting on better ground.

 

[Skintagain]

No hedges at our altitude, no clover on a lot of it. Can you imagine trying to scratch clover into moorland and hill bent grass? White ground? Peaty soil is too acidic for clover. No trees on that ground either.
We will make a go of it when it becomes available to us but I think it’s an insult setting a scheme away that some have been in for over two years that still isn’t available for us in harder ground. I also think it’s an insult that we are offered only 6% of what many others are getting on better ground.

Looks dire without taking quick buck and ending up down a one way street

 

[livestock 1]

Looks dire without taking quick buck and ending up down a one way street

We will no doubt make something of it what’s interesting is it would seem a deliberate act to give the low landers the dosh and withhold it from the hill farmers for a few years