luck money

[Bill the Bass]

The cartel wouldn't let you

Ah touché

 

[Bill the Bass]

thats what they are buying the cattle for to make a few quid i did not see coal miners getting luck money and their conditions were a lot worse if you want to tip them thats fine but why should they expect it

If thats the way you want to look at it fair enough, but as I said earlier I (like many other businesses) rely on repeat buyers so I try to treat them right.

Example, I sold two men cow and calf outfits in April, gave them luck. They were back in May to buy again in a very selective trade - now I can't say that the luck made them come back but it certainly didn't do any harm. I think it also helps to go and seek the buyer out after you have sold, it shows you have faith in your product rather than just legin' it like you have something to hide and just wanted shot.

I couldn't comment on what goes on in the calf ring - never have out to do with it or calf dealers.

 

[penntor]

'If thats the way you want to look at it fair enough, but as I said earlier I (like many other businesses) rely on repeat buyers so I try to treat them right.'

I have repeat buyers for my store cattle sold through the ring, but they come back because the cattle fatten and grade out well, not because of luck money. As I said earlier the buyers get their luck when they buy them.
I know this from feedback so I don't sell and run.

penntor

 

[chaffcutter]

WHEN (oh long ago)!! we had two or three local cattle auctions dairy cattle and calves always had a bit of luck, I never used to like doing it but especially with the calf dealers if you didn't give it they just wouldn't buy. They still sorted them out between themselves anyway! My missus used to do the books for a dealer who was buying stores and fat cattle for two abattoirs,was in a different market 4 days a week, every day he used to come back and empty his pockets of luck money into a bucket! I think it mostly got recycled into shooting and whisky

 

[bobk]

Luck money makes no difference .... try waving a tenner in the fat ring they'll be like bees round a honey pot, a lot of these buyers are paid for each beast they buy and maybe get the haulage if they have a lorry.
For stores it's always helps if the seller stands with his stock whether he gives luck isn't so important but always appreciated lol
Cattle sold without the farmer never make as much

 

[Giles1]

My name is on the sale line if anyone wishes to contact me to buy more or tell me they were hopeless.As to the calf trade,yes you can be bid up,but two can play at that,and when the dealers have been bid up and dropped a few times they will get the message,or used too.(Welshpool,early '80's).They also tended to leave you alone once they realised you were not a threat to their business,trying to corner the market and no way were you going to them to buy for you anyway.Agree it's best to be in the ring with your stock,but that may be to concentrate Auctioneers minds as much as anything,and these days time at mart is hard to justify.I'm damned if I'll pay luck for someone elses shooting,whiskey,lunch,fuel,floosie or whatever when its hard enough to pay for my own.

 

[Flossie]

I find that a lot of the time the auctioneer prefers to keep the buyers happy, rather than the vendors In the beef ring, things will be going along nicely, then a dealer throws it up, says he wasn't in, and it starts again 30p back.
In the dairy ring, it can be the same. I had a heifer that wasn't making enough, so I was shaking my head. Auctioneer knocked it down to a regular buyer, but auctioneers secretary saw me shaking my head. I didn't want to sell, buyer got bolshy (I'll never buy off you again, etc) It got sorted but I felt under pressure to keep them sweet
It's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Lots of buyers attract lots of sellers, but if they start getting greedy, livestock numbers presented will fall. Easy to say when we have choice of a few auctions to go to round us

 

[bobk]

I find that a lot of the time the auctioneer prefers to keep the buyers happy, rather than the vendors In the beef ring, things will be going along nicely, then a dealer throws it up, says he wasn't in, and it starts again 30p back.
In the dairy ring, it can be the same. I had a heifer that wasn't making enough, so I was shaking my head. Auctioneer knocked it down to a regular buyer, but auctioneers secretary saw me shaking my head. I didn't want to sell, buyer got bolshy (I'll never buy off you again, etc) It got sorted but I felt under pressure to keep them sweet
It's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Lots of buyers attract lots of sellers, but if they start getting greedy, livestock numbers presented will fall. Easy to say when we have choice of a few auctions to go to round us

I think we've met or someone very similar

 

[Flossie]

I think we've met

Where were you lucky enough to meet me?

 

[lady muck]

I always give luck when selling stores or breeding stock as does my father and even husband.

 

[bobk]

Where were you lucky enough to meet me?

Gisburn

 

[Flossie]

Gisburn

 

[bobk]

 

[lady muck]

Flossie you weren't selling cattle in your daisy duke shorts again were you?

 

[Y Fan Wen]

I have to admit to one superstition. When buying a dog or pup, I've always asked for luck, be it ever so small. I then put it in an envelope with the dog's name on it and file it away. It doesn't get touched until the dog has gone. I would never expect to get any luck with a dog without doing that.

 

[Flossie]

Flossie you weren't selling cattle in your daisy duke shorts again were you?

I wanted to sell the heifer-not scare the crowd away

 

[Downtrodden Dad]

I always give luck and expect to receive some when buying. When buying swaledales years ago it got to be silly the amount of cash we came home with, but it made it all a false trade. I think especially in the fat ring when the dealers are buying on behalf of a meat firm a few quid coming their way makes them look up and more keen to bid. Also, i have been stood with some buyers and heard them saying "i dont bother with X cause they dont give any luck." The choice is yours at the end of the day.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Dont you tip the doorman when he parks your car

 

[kelpiekid]

What's the inland revenues stand on this, I'm sure they'll carry on turning a blind eye .

 

[roscoe erf]

Dont you tip the doorman when he parks your car

W.T.F. Is he not paid to do the job you obviously hang out in better joints than me if you let someone park your car where I go you'd never see it again straw trade must be good