Lush spring barley

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
Whats the latest Terpal can go on, my recollection is awn emergence but not ear showing?
Yes but later you leave it more harm it does
0.5 on flag leaf is less stressful to plant, you’ll scorch awns late and practically stop head in leaf sheath
 

Jerry

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
Yes but later you leave it more harm it does
0.5 on flag leaf is less stressful to plant, you’ll scorch awns late and practically stop head in leaf sheath

Hmmm, after todays little drop of rain I can see it motoring on, Will make a decision tomorrow after a good walk around.

Its mainly sienna that does not brackle too badly.

Decisions decisions!
 

jh.

Member
Location
fife
Impressive!
Cheers just hope I can keep it standing. Flat stuff is no use.

By contrast this was my barley last year in June . A month late getting drilled and was late getting the fert on , then it never rained for about 8 weeks . Still have no idea how we got near 2 ton an acre of grain off the crappy straw we baled , only getting 2 4x4 bales to the acre.
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jh.

Member
Location
fife
Been at the same job today. Did the lot at 0.5lLt/ha.
Amazing amount of soft growth since the T1/weed control went on a week ago.

Total opposite of last year:)
Has yours had any other growth reg.

Made a start on mine today but wondering if in hind sight an earlier 3c and moddus pass , would have been better than single 0.5 cerone now

Mines to get axial in places so hopefully not too hot
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Too late for spring oats! Was out putting pgr on these this afternoon. 0.4kg/ha meda max.

Everythings gone nuts in the past week. Roots must have found resisual N from stubble turnips/kale/muck.

One field of spring barley i did with canopy last weeks going to need something else. Its looking like silage.
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Fraserb

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Too late for spring oats! Was out putting pgr on these this afternoon. 0.4kg/ha meda max.

Everythings gone nuts in the past week. Roots must have found resisual N from stubble turnips/kale/muck.

One field of spring barley i did with canopy last weeks going to need something else. Its looking like silage. View attachment 807362

Our barley is looking pretty powerful as well.

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jh.

Member
Location
fife
Chae has your oats had any earlier pgr.

With them going down this early will you mow the flat bits as silage ?. We did 24m endrigs last year at a neighbours farm because the silage was so scarce
 
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Happy

Member
Location
Scotland
Has yours had any other growth reg.

Made a start on mine today but wondering if in hind sight an earlier 3c and moddus pass , would have been better than single 0.5 cerone now

Mines to get axial in places so hopefully not too hot

No, I’ve never had to put growth reg on spring barley before this year.

In hindsight something before now would have been better but things just taken off since rain first arrived a fortnight ago. Crop looked pretty normal prior to that.

Combination of an ideal spring, more residual N after a year of dry weather and a higher seed rate owing to it being 57tgw. Of course every one of them seems to have germinated:rolleyes:

Will be very surprised if mine makes it to harvest without lodging.
 

DRC

Member
Talking of lush growth, my wheat is as tall as I’ve seen it this year, and I’ve noticed some down this afternoon, after today’s 25mm.
A neighbour has a field of OSR that’s pretty flat as well. I’ve cut back on fertiliser and this particular field has had more growth reg.
not what we want this early.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Talking of lush growth, my wheat is as tall as I’ve seen it this year, and I’ve noticed some down this afternoon, after today’s 25mm.
A neighbour has a field of OSR that’s pretty flat as well. I’ve cut back on fertiliser and this particular field has had more growth reg.
not what we want this early.
25mm! Only 3.5mm here. Stuff keeping going but still very dry at any depth
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Do people still use Terpal and Cerone? We used to use it until we discovered Moddus. I'm no cropping expert being a humble dairy farmer but there's no comparison in my mind; a well time application of Moddus does a far better job of keeping a crop standing than Terpal or Cerone.
 

jh.

Member
Location
fife
Do people still use Terpal and Cerone? We used to use it until we discovered Moddus. I'm no cropping expert being a humble dairy farmer but there's no comparison in my mind; a well time application of Moddus does a far better job of keeping a crop standing than Terpal or Cerone.
That was kinda what I was getting at . Cerone at 0.5 is a full rate dose . Moddus or 3c early and then possibly 0.25 cerone later would be far kinder imo and should build up regulation in stages rather than a all in one hit .

Can't help but feel it's all a bit late now for these big panic doses . I know canopy is sold out with agrii, could other brands be short too with all sellers , so we're having to take terpal/cerone as more available for the spring barley
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Do people still use Terpal and Cerone? We used to use it until we discovered Moddus. I'm no cropping expert being a humble dairy farmer but there's no comparison in my mind; a well time application of Moddus does a far better job of keeping a crop standing than Terpal or Cerone.

Yes - you can react to a lush crop later on. If it looks like a jungle early on then I'll use early PGRs like Moddus and/or chlormequat. A sequence isn't a bad thing if you know your risk is high. Moddus can be quite harsh on a crop too.
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
Yes - you can react to a lush crop later on. If it looks like a jungle early on then I'll use early PGRs like Moddus and/or chlormequat. A sequence isn't a bad thing if you know your risk is high. Moddus can be quite harsh on a crop too.
I find adama Optimus a lot kinder on crops, modus is harsh
 

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