Lynx and wolves could return to England as rewilding task force set up by PM

arcobob

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Norfolk
Should get the blood pressure going, the hard sell begins at 00:58. Where is all this agricultural land that is coming out of production ?
Photography is very good though.
Packham and his mates are laughing all the way to the bank. One location for Sprigwatch is just up the road from me, some of it on land once owned by my grandfather. The gamekeeper is now officially a wildlife warden. Sea Eagles are due to arrive soon though there is no evidence that they ever inhabited north west Norfolk other than as passing migrants. Good news for outdoor small livestock. . :mad::mad:
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Should get the blood pressure going, the hard sell begins at 00:58. Where is all this agricultural land that is coming out of production ?
Photography is very good though.
first thing, agriculture only employs about 1.5% of the workforce but doesn't agriculture feed 100% of the population, I think everyone would be starving if we re-wilded and turned everything over to Lynx, Wolves, Bison etc etc, just watching the first minute I feel myself getting annoyed! The crux of the matter is, there are too many people in the world, but, all we can do about it is try to farm as efficiently as possible, make a little room for wildlife, don't waste food.
 

Raider112

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This time last year they were calling us heroes for keeping the shelves refilled as quickly as they emptied. Imagine the next crisis if last years run on bog roll was focussed on food.
 

Cheesehead

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
first thing, agriculture only employs about 1.5% of the workforce but doesn't agriculture feed 100% of the population, I think everyone would be starving if we re-wilded and turned everything over to Lynx, Wolves, Bison etc etc, just watching the first minute I feel myself getting annoyed! The crux of the matter is, there are too many people in the world, but, all we can do about it is try to farm as efficiently as possible, make a little room for wildlife, don't waste food.

I doubt they would starve they would bitch and whine still because food would be imported and developing countries would then be clearing forests to keep up with demand for the new cash crops.
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
I doubt they would starve they would bitch and whine still because food would be imported and developing countries would then be clearing forests to keep up with demand for the new cash crops.
remember the "Arab Spring" was not about an urge for democracy, rather, it was all about the price of bread going up in Egypt.
 

Cheesehead

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
remember the "Arab Spring" was not about an urge for democracy, rather, it was all about the price of bread going up in Egypt.
But don't forget people from different countries tend to react differently well unless there is a respiratory disease going around then everyone buys loo roll but the same ones who campaign for rewilding here where it then pushes land out of food production to the point they would be happy for us to import all our food like Singapore are also the ones that complain and campaign because that demand is then met by countries in other parts of the world including developing countries that a) don't necessarily have the same welfare or environmental protection laws as we have b) have less qualms about taking habitats out to meet the new demand.

I do think we do a crap job of promoting our produce as it seems more along the line of bigging ours up by deriding others on social media I have been more pee'd off at reading sourced from the NFU or even the original copied straight in still with the logo on post saying how livestock are killing the planet. With it coming from one's about feed lot in the States and elsewhere and then read comments when someone has pointed it out about how is that no different than finishing units and zero graze here where they are housed. All it accomplishes is taking an axe to ones they are supposed to be promoting. You then have the fact that when people try to then market to other countries it causes bad blood.
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
remember the "Arab Spring" was not about an urge for democracy, rather, it was all about the price of bread going up in Egypt.
I'm thinking it was 2-3 countries in North Africa, with associated 'bread riots', because of a spike in wheat price
........which in turn had been fuelled by speculators on Wall St.

Think, all that turmoil.........still reverberating
 

Pigken

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Location
Co. Durham
Should get the blood pressure going, the hard sell begins at 00:58. Where is all this agricultural land that is coming out of production ?
Photography is very good though.



Ended up watching this on YouTube, the comments and support were truly unbelievable, worth a few minutes looking to see how much Some sectors of watchers back it. But surely food security after the souzers canal and covid and brexit is more important.
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Ended up watching this on YouTube, the comments and support were truly unbelievable, worth a few minutes looking to see how much Some sectors of watchers back it. But surely food security after the souzers canal and covid and brexit is more important.
I agree, but the problem is that so many in our society are totally divorced from the realities of life/death and where food comes from, they don't join the dots to lamb in a field-lamb chop on a polystyrene container in Tesco! That is why, programmes, like this weeks episode of My Yorkshire Farm is so important. I wonder how people thought of the chickens feeding, killing, plucking, Christmas dinner link played out. I remember my daughter saying something like, I loved raising and looking after the turkeys, now I loving eating them but I wonder how many would think like that.
 

Pigken

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Location
Co. Durham
I agree, but the problem is that so many in our society are totally divorced from the realities of life/death and where food comes from, they don't join the dots to lamb in a field-lamb chop on a polystyrene container in Tesco! That is why, programmes, like this weeks episode of My Yorkshire Farm is so important. I wonder how people thought of the chickens feeding, killing, plucking, Christmas dinner link played out. I remember my daughter saying something like, I loved raising and looking after the turkeys, now I loving eating them but I wonder how many would think like that.





Very true, so is there a national body that represents agriculture, the countryside etc that can help educate. Why are so many youngsters growing up unaware that milk comes from cow etc. Why are we not still allowing school children to visit farms. But yes Amanda Clive and family are good ambassador s.
 

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