Lynx and wolves could return to England as rewilding task force set up by PM

GeorgeC1

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Honestly I think long term this would be a good thing, apex predators are vital for the ecosystem, Yellowstone national park was made vastly more healthy when they were reintroduced.


I do understand concerns from some livestock farmers about them potentially attacking livestock, that's a risk but ultimately pet dogs will still kill more sheep then wolves will be due to sheer numbers.

European Lynx have no recorded attacks on humans, wolves can help with population control of deer and boar.
 

renewablejohn

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Honestly I think long term this would be a good thing, apex predators are vital for the ecosystem, Yellowstone national park was made vastly more healthy when they were reintroduced.


I do understand concerns from some livestock farmers about them potentially attacking livestock, that's a risk but ultimately pet dogs will still kill more sheep then wolves will be due to sheer numbers.

European Lynx have no recorded attacks on humans, wolves can help with population control of deer and boar.
Go and farm in Sweden or Germany before making such stupid comments. Thankfully we dont have Lynx or Wolves in the wild in the UK and long may it continue.
 

GeorgeC1

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Go and farm in Sweden or Germany before making such stupid comments. Thankfully we dont have Lynx or Wolves in the wild in the UK and long may it continue.

Many countries have them and Farm just fine, they secure there land to help prevent that sort of thing.

Our ecosystem is very unhealthy, there's nothing short of Humans intervening controlling the numbers of Deer, boar etc. they will cause more damage to farms then Wolves.
 

kfpben

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Mid Hampshire
Many countries have them and Farm just fine, they secure there land to help prevent that sort of thing.

Our ecosystem is very unhealthy, there's nothing short of Humans intervening controlling the numbers of Deer, boar etc. they will cause more damage to farms then Wolves.
Time to bring the staghounds back.
Same principle as wolves, without the human and livestock killing tendencies.
 
Many countries have them and Farm just fine, they secure there land to help prevent that sort of thing.

Our ecosystem is very unhealthy, there's nothing short of Humans intervening controlling the numbers of Deer, boar etc. they will cause more damage to farms then Wolves.

With respect, you have utterly no idea of what you are talking about.

Our ecosystem is 'very unhealthy'. Really? Says who?
 
When the apex pretaors have eaten all the deer, what controls the apex predators? Logic would seem to suggest we'll be replacing deer with wolves and lynx which, in the absence of natural prey, will move on to predate livestock.

These apex predators are not thick- they will eat whatever they can. Starting with, domestic livestock and probably folks cats and dogs as well.

By the time a few ramblers have been chased or savaged by one of these things they will realise reintroduction of long-lost species is a ridiculous idea.
 

D14

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Many countries have them and Farm just fine, they secure there land to help prevent that sort of thing.

Our ecosystem is very unhealthy, there's nothing short of Humans intervening controlling the numbers of Deer, boar etc. they will cause more damage to farms then Wolves.

Do you have any idea what 'securing' land costs? It'll also make the countryside look like a prison.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Many countries have them and Farm just fine, they secure there land to help prevent that sort of thing.

Our ecosystem is very unhealthy, there's nothing short of Humans intervening controlling the numbers of Deer, boar etc. they will cause more damage to farms then Wolves.

Just wait until the first ramblers lose their pet dog to a wolf pack and your Eco warriors will face the full wrath of the Daily Mail.
 

ImLost

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Livestock Farmer
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Not sure

Honestly I think long term this would be a good thing, apex predators are vital for the ecosystem, Yellowstone national park was made vastly more healthy when they were reintroduced.


I do understand concerns from some livestock farmers about them potentially attacking livestock, that's a risk but ultimately pet dogs will still kill more sheep then wolves will be due to sheer numbers.

European Lynx have no recorded attacks on humans, wolves can help with population control of deer and boar.
Grow up.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

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