Machinery Student Cock Up!

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
The quad is a piece of cake. Only done this one once since the free first service but I drive it on a pallet, lift the pallet onto a stack of other pallets and do it at a comfortable height. The Honda 420 needs the red plastic panels removed all down the sides, which is a bit of a faff, but not too bad. The filter is not a screw-on but is located behind a metal panel in the engine block.

Not a sump plug or anything with a good thread. Never. Always tighten by hand first. Nor have I overtightened and stripped a thread in an alloy part. That’s not arrogance, it’s a fact and one that you evidently should learn from yourself you careless and patently #cluelessnumpty.
weve got one of these. can use it on 2 wheelers as well.
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no huge ly far off the ground but high enough to be much nicer to work on and easily moved around if need be.
not too expensive either for its usefulness.
 

bitwrx

Member
I was doing oil changes at 11 years of age. If I didn’t they would all be like my father’s 1964 MF135, absolute scrap by 1970. Ruined through neglect within 2500 hours and fit only for recycling.
In college I despaired at the completely wrong method being taught by lecturer and workshop technicians to adjust the traction clutch of a MF 165.
I had to Google what supercilious means, but I think @DrDunc 's description is perfectly apt.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Many thanks for all the replies and the hopeful solution to the problem.
The lad is not stupid, just a typical teenager who thinks he knows everything.
I took him at his word that he knew what he was doing. It appears after I queried whether he had actually done oil changes at College, they had watched it being done.

My fault perhaps for not supervising more, but I find students perform better if given some leeway and not put under pressure over time.

College training is not what it was or should be.
We all make mistakes but you are either a natural mechanic or not I would suggest.
 

manhill

Member
In his skull with a blunt chisel.

I’m afraid that much of the ‘talent’ that comes out from certain institutions is of this standard. Ask him to name the five events of the Otto Cycle as a basic test of knowledge which I learnt for myself at about 11 years of age. Don’t be surprised if all you get is an open-mouthed blank stare.

The what????
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
We all make mistakes but you are either a natural mechanic or not I would suggest.
Yes, that about sums it up. One of the best mechanics I ever met cannot read or write. He is self taught by working on old cars and tractors and just has an interest in and an amazing mechanical aptitude that just is in him naturally. He just loves getting things to work, especially stuff that others can’t. Not the best at electronics though but spot on with conventional electrics.
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Anyone who understands how engines work should be able to visualise these in their mind’s eye and name them. I’m fairly sure I came across the Otto Cycle in some teen technical magazine even before being introduced to it during physics lessons at school. Certainly years before college.
While every other teen was "reading" the freeman's catalogue
 
Thinking back a long time now, one day I stopped to refuel the fastrac, parked it up, climbed out, fought with the lock in the filler cap, unscrewed it and to my surprise found the tank nearly full- of oil. It was only because I had parked slightly funny on a bit of a slope that the oil had sloshed to the side enough that I could see it. Nearly filled the hydraulic oil tank with diesel... Good job it wasn't dark else I'd never have seen it.
 

Robt

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Location
Suffolk
Thinking back a long time now, one day I stopped to refuel the fastrac, parked it up, climbed out, fought with the lock in the filler cap, unscrewed it and to my surprise found the tank nearly full- of oil. It was only because I had parked slightly funny on a bit of a slope that the oil had sloshed to the side enough that I could see it. Nearly filled the hydraulic oil tank with diesel... Good job it wasn't dark else I'd never have seen it.
In the words of the great Huw from wales, ….. you clueless numpty! 😂😂😂😂
 
I had one do that to a jcb 527-58. Still have the 40 gallon barrel with the anti rust, spray on mix in. Diesel tank under cab steps, hydraulic tank on offside.

It was a machine I wasn't all that familiar with at the time and the hydraulic oil tank on that model fastrac was in the exact same place as you would expect the diesel tank to be, only on the other side of the machine. If I remember rightly the lid was quite large as well so quite similar to a diesel tank lid too. Fudging good job it wasn't late and dark as I would probably have not noticed the tank already being so full. My own fault for trying to be helpful by filling up someone else's machine at the end of the day before going home.
 

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