Made in China!!!

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
All the smaller sisu engines are made in china , Massey and Valtra use them .
Massy's tractor of the year 2020 has a ..
..CNH engine , tells everything you need to know really :rolleyes:
I wonder what the story is with that model, the 3709AL? Is it a vineyard tractor or a narrow one, or some other niche model?
The engine is certainly an Iveco 3.4 litre four cylinder unit, also sold as a Perkins of course, as I mentioned a few posts ago.
It would be interesting to know why they chose this engine for this application rather than their own three cylinder unit.
 

Cheesehead

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
Have you looked at bottle of hand sanitiser, all made in China? (I expect that they were stockpiling it before they unleased the bug!)
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Obviously no one told Cuticura or Tesco's as with the daily trips to hospital we are going through rather a lot at the moment.
 

PostHarvest

Member
Location
Warwick
got garlic in the s/market from prc
Three good friends were all driven out of business by Chinese suppliers low-balling prices. One had a garlic farm in Bolivia, another grew apples in Washington State in the USA. The third made car parts in Birmingham. I believe that Stanadyne closed their US fuel injection equipment plant and now sources everything from China as its cheaper and more reliable.
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
AGCO have a brand new factory in China that makes transmissions and three cylinder engines, which should be exactly the same as Finish made engines. As yet I believe they are only installed in Chinese made 'Global' series tractors.
Do Fendt use any engines from China in any of there models? As far as i,m aware they don,t.
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Err, I have no idea about Valtra being a “premium” product or not ( never seen one ), but BMW, Mercedes, Caterpillar, Honda, KTM - just to name a few, all have manufacturing facilities in China
Premium product means premium price, nothing to do with quality, its called marketing. Some things are very hard to sell really cheap so the price is set at around average and sells ok then. Ask any farmer if he would buy a new 100HP tractor for £20k.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
I wonder what the story is with that model, the 3709AL? Is it a vineyard tractor or a narrow one, or some other niche model?
The engine is certainly an Iveco 3.4 litre four cylinder unit, also sold as a Perkins of course, as I mentioned a few posts ago.
It would be interesting to know why they chose this engine for this application rather than their own three cylinder unit.
Yes it seems a odd model the rest of the 3700 s have their own 3 cylinder in , which are their vineyard and fruit farm models . The 3700 AL s seem to sit in between the rest of the 37s and the 4700s .
The 3700 AL are higher specced than the 4700 s although the new M models have a greater choice of transmissions.
AL stands for alpine and they say is designed for hill work?
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
A pal of mine has bought a Case cuz it was cheap and it has a CNH engine which is the best thing about the tractor, he reckons. Why can't other manufacturers make engines as good as CNH?
Not sure why but throughout the history of the internal combustion engine there are periods when 1 or 2 manufacturers seem to get it right for a period of time, doesn't always last .
CNH and Deutz seem to have got the Sub 100hp engines right atm.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Three good friends were all driven out of business by Chinese suppliers low-balling prices. One had a garlic farm in Bolivia, another grew apples in Washington State in the USA. The third made car parts in Birmingham. I believe that Stanadyne closed their US fuel injection equipment plant and now sources everything from China as its cheaper and more reliable.
Stanadyne had a big UK plant in Suffolk, not sure all is relocated to China as some production is in Pakistan
 

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