Mag and Mang Products
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Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Usually Opte-mag/mang from UAP/Agrii.
what does it cost / how strong ?
Steevo
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15% usually I think. About 70p a litre I think.
Ditto here.
Manganese is around 15% (Headland). 48 pence/litre last time I bought 1000 litres.
Optemag used at flag leaf and earwwash. I can't remember the strength but it was 52 pence/litre for 1000 litres.
Where I need copper as well as manganese (spring barley) I use Yara mixtures. Mancuflo for spring barley mixes well but is much more expensive.
@Chalky uses quite a few trace elements
Steevo
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Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
15% manganese £445/ ibc
ollie989898
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If you speak with one of the manufacturers they might be persuaded to make you up an IBC of whatever you want provided you order a couple of IBCs or something at a time.
Be ware of how they are formulated though- manganese carbonate is a slow acting kind of deal, manganese sulphate/nitrate is much much faster acting.
Be ware of how they are formulated though- manganese carbonate is a slow acting kind of deal, manganese sulphate/nitrate is much much faster acting.
Have been using Maxi-phi M&M mang and mang product, its does a great job - not got prices to hand but I have a feeling it might be an expensive solution
ollie989898
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I don't know about the liquid products but in many of them there is virtually no or otherwise very little water content- they are very heavy when packaged, more so than pure water would be.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Do many people treat seed with manganese?
Sandy
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We tried last year and there was no benefit , certainly wouldn't bother again
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Does just it come in cans, or barrels/IBC?
IIRC Steve's products used to be forumlated by Amega Sciences. Probably a great solution if needing a specific blend of nutrients for a high value horticulture crop etc. but I'd hazard a guess that like all micronutrients the selling price and ingredient cost are poles apart.
Steevo
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This might be as good a place as any to mention this review being done a piece of research being done by ADAS on behalf of AHDB about biostimulants. Since the market is not regulated at all (unlike pesticides) so therefore require no testing/proof of the claims.
https://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/1134407/rr89.pdf
P.S Your AHDB (HGCA) cereals levy was used to pay for this - £27,024.https://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/1134407/rr89.pdf
https://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/1134407/rr89.pdf
P.S Your AHDB (HGCA) cereals levy was used to pay for this - £27,024.https://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/1134407/rr89.pdf
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- Lincolnshire
If your near a Omex site you can just take a couple of ibc's on a car trailer and they fill them while you wait (manganese nitrate) it's quite a cheap way of buying it as your not paying for the ibc's every time.
Only on fields where I knew I would be spraying for Mn several times on light sand where the crop would die if you weren't on every fortnight. Seed dressings don't last very long.
IBC's - we use a lot of this stuff, our low cec soils need spooon feeding mang and mag
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- Lincolnshire
Why buy water and plastic?
Buy the manganese sulphate powder and the Bittersalz. Bung some liquid N or ammonium nitrate in first.
And I've found my manganese problems on light land have diminished significantly since I dropped PDM entirely and cut back on DFF and flufenacet to the bare minimum at preem only.
They sell us stuff that creates a problem then they sell us more stuff to fix it. Autumn herbicides do lots of damage to cereals on light land, but they always blame manganese.
Most often it's just plain lack of N as well due to insane RB209 preventing Autumn N on cereals, except in Scotland of course who aren't so daft.
Buy the manganese sulphate powder and the Bittersalz. Bung some liquid N or ammonium nitrate in first.
And I've found my manganese problems on light land have diminished significantly since I dropped PDM entirely and cut back on DFF and flufenacet to the bare minimum at preem only.
They sell us stuff that creates a problem then they sell us more stuff to fix it. Autumn herbicides do lots of damage to cereals on light land, but they always blame manganese.
Most often it's just plain lack of N as well due to insane RB209 preventing Autumn N on cereals, except in Scotland of course who aren't so daft.