mains energizer mobile phone shutoff

[dannewhouse]

has anyone got this set up?

this is the designed for the job one at £180
https://www.marketplace.farm/farm-a...-communication-with-mains-powered-energisers/

or is this one which will do exactly the same job??? £20
my fencer is in a dry garage any way so don't need an outside socket. (made in china)
https://www.tomtop.com/p-c2036us.ht...MI04qy4_m91gIVJbXtCh1K1wqiEAkYASABEgJbxfD_BwE

or

https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/p...d=0ahUKEwi2ubDj-b3WAhXMDcAKHZe0BEYQ8wIIvQIwAQ

they might not last as long probably 5 year but is there a reason they wont do my job? £20 is neither here nor there £180 seems a lot for the convenience?

 

[foxbox]

I'd try the cheap one to start with considering the price difference as long as you are comfortable that it'll work on UK networks. There's a reviewed one on Amazon too which is also fairly cheap (mentions EU>UK adaptor supplied with it though). We've got a similar system installed to turn calving lights on and off from home; it's fantastic and I wouldn't want to be without it now.

The biggest challenge is finding a SIM card; ideally 2G but 3G generally is ok. Finding one that can receive messages without having to send many is difficult as most networks disable phone numbers not used after a certain period (3 months etc). Therefore you either need to be able to remove and periodically use the card in a phone (pain in the bum) or have a unit that can send you the balance left on the card etc when requested. You can get round this with SIM's on contracts offered for use in solar monitoring set-ups for example which often have a £5 per month cost or similar but they're very expensive for what you want. Hopefully you can find a cheap pre-pay card that will do it.

A cheaper alternative if you are near your house with the energiser might be a wifi controlled switch. I've not used the one in the link, just posting it as an example. It connects to your router via wifi and you download an app to your phone; as long as you have internet access when mending your fence you can control the plug via the app.

Final alternative is to fit some switches in your fence so you can pop back a field to turn the fence off when you find a fault; you won't get many switches for £17.50 though.

 

[dannewhouse]

what about turning the power off every month/3 month say so that it forces a text to alert you of power loss just to keep the sim active? we have the same problem with the tracers on the diggers

 

[Courier]

A good pair of wellies for insulation and a strong constitution worked well for me with a high powered mains Gallagher.

Rock back on the heels and keep the soles off the earth for best effect.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

The better electric fencers have remote control option worked through the fence, but I guess you want something for existing fencer?

 

[foxbox]

what about turning the power off every month/3 month say so that it forces a text to alert you of power loss just to keep the sim active? we have the same problem with the tracers on the diggers

If you can force it to report like this then that should work as most SIM's require very little use to remain active. This link has a few examples in it; they all seem to need use once every 6 months or so and all are 4G; I assume they'd fall back on to 3G if the signal isn't strong enough though which is all you'd need.

 

[dannewhouse]

If you can force it to report like this then that should work as most SIM's require very little use to remain active. This link has a few examples in it; they all seem to need use once every 6 months or so and all are 4G; I assume they'd fall back on to 3G if the signal isn't strong enough though which is all you'd need.

if you shop around you can find them that have an alert system for power cuts the 1 ive found has 3 socket outlets at 27 quid so even though I don't need the 3 sockets far easier than taking a sim out to put in a phone etc just to keep it working.

I also keep looking as I want one that's simple even if no pin number required I don't want to be having to text in code or remember that # is on and * is off when ringing it. I like to be prompted ie press 1 for off 2 for on perhaps I would get used to it just looked complicated when I 1st saw it.

 

[ROBINWORKS]

I have one of the 2nd one that you have listed, just a single socket though, works ok, for resetting a router.
You can get m2m (machine 2 machine) sim cards from this company
https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/u...-p1127.html?search_query=sim+card&results=200

 

[dannewhouse]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EU-plug-C...922466?hash=item5b357595e2:g:vqUAAOSwu4BVyv1W

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SC1-GSMVC...689773?hash=item4affc523ed:g:dAwAAOSwwf5Zzf1r

they are exactly the same but are the black ones older and do I care? its only £5 difference but for exactly the same thing?

the sim card you mentioned says most other networks remove credit after a month, as far as I'm aware they don't.
that 1 is able to top up automatically but you can top up normal sim cards just on internet now so not too much bother if it did run out. its the best "contract" sim for this job as most have a £5 standing charge/month so deer.
the texts/call rates are dear ish and it does also state if you do your monthly alarm check your sim will go on indefinitely suggesting id does have a time in which you have to use it or loose it? most are 6 months in used.
the roaming idea is good for poorer signal areas but as these machines are generalyy stationary theyl lock on 1 permanent any way? so aslong as you choose right 1st its ok?

 

[dannewhouse]

I have one of the 2nd one that you have listed, just a single socket though, works ok, for resetting a router.
You can get m2m (machine 2 machine) sim cards from this company
https://www.ultrasecuredirect.com/u...-p1127.html?search_query=sim+card&results=200

also how do you work yours ie if you ring up are you prompted for a password and then press 1 for off 2 for on?
or what is the txt like some sort of code? or is it quite simple do you have a link to your exact 1 as I don't need the 3 sockets, does yours notify you of a power cut?

 

[ROBINWORKS]

You just call the number, it switches on, you call again it switches off,
Press the set button on the plug until the set light flashes, call the number while it is still flashing, that's it set to recognise your number, It knocks back numbers it doesn't know

 

[dannewhouse]

You just call the number, it switches on, you call again it switches off,
Press the set button on the plug until the set light flashes, call the number while it is still flashing, that's it set to recognise your number, It knocks back numbers it doesn't know

when you call does it say which way its switching I'm not that keen on a poor signal issue or something ending up with me getting a shock!!! for the 2 seconds extra I would like it to say device is now turned off.

 

[ROBINWORKS]

No, they might be other ones that do that though, but probably more costly,
Could always take a fence tester with you

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

The only reason to have an M2M (fixed network IP and/or private IP address) SIM card is to be able to remotely access your devices from the internet, as mobile networks generally now have a network within a network (carrier grade NAT) to preserve IP addresses.

Generally speaking if you’re accessing a device simply via SMS commands sent to its mobile number then you don’t need an M2M sim - unless you want it for its network roaming characteristics - or as said its fixed/private IP characteristics. Just use a regular network SIM card (contract or PYG) which will be a fraction of the cost.

 

[dannewhouse]

i got it off amazon as next day delivery, works as it says if you text a command it texts back confirmation or if you ring it rings twice then hangs up and switches.

now to get a payg sim that's not 1 of these silly bundles where you pay x per month for a bundle

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

i got it off amazon as next day delivery, works as it says if you text a command it texts back confirmation or if you ring it rings twice then hangs up and switches.

now to get a payg sim that's not 1 of these silly bundles where you pay x per month for a bundle

If it’s just sending / receiving SMS messages - then I’d just get PayG SiM from the likes of GiffGaff (O2 network) or Asda mobile (EE network). £15 credit or thereabouts will be enough to send text messages for a year.

 

[dannewhouse]

I was actually looking at 02 5p per text it will never ring nor internet. id rather go with 1 of the big companies than such as giff gaff as my sis was on that and never ever had signal, defeats the object when I'm down field trying to switch it!

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

The best way to do it is order some free PAYG sims that cover all the main networks - pop them into a spare (old style phone) and check the signal strength.

In my experience EE and Vodafone have the best network coverage and 02 are in third place. Might be different where you are.

The virtual operators (virgin, Asda, GiffGaff) are usually cheaper and more flexible on out of bundle rates than the going to the “mother” networks direct for PayG.

 

[dannewhouse]

I have the attitude maybe I could get the texts down to 1p or 2p with a minor network but even though they are 5p for 02 if I use 10 per year £5 credit will last 5 years so I'm not 2 concerned.
I just don't want an unreliable network

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Mobile service “reliability” is simply down to how solid the signal is in your particular patch. For example if EE signal is solid then a SIM from either EE themselves, Virgin Mobile or Asda Mobile will be equally “reliable”. Then choose the carrier based on costs to suit your needs.