Major NFU Revamp??... or... Start Another 'Union' from Scratch?? Time to stand up and be counted.

[yellowbelly]

So if you saw someone doing something that would be farming under the microscope in the press you would stand back and let your business be affected?

What I saw was RT affecting my business by sucking a few hundred pounds a year out of it for no return.

I 'stepped forward' and dumped it.

As far as dobbing anybody else in, I've enough on my plate without 'policing' the rest of the farming community.

 

[An Gof]

So if you saw someone doing something that would be farming under the microscope in the press you would stand back and let your business be affected?

Tesco's mislabeling is another example, and we all know how farmers love a winge and moan about that sort of thing!

John Chapter 8 verse 7

 

[Tarw Coch]

I have a couple of times when In a position where information came to my attention and i was in a position of trust.

That must have given you a right moral dilemma/been something quite bad for you to report someone when you were in a position of trust

 

[Ashtree]

 

[Sid]

John Chapter 8 verse 7

That must have given you a right moral dilemma/been something quite bad for you to report someone when you were in a position of trust

If you sat on a RT board and you were aware 1st hand of a blantent breach of RT rules. Should you report them?

 

[kill]

If you sat on a RT board and you were aware 1st hand of a blantent breach of RT rules. Should you report them?

I was a bearer for a close friend who took his own life after being reported for something. You never know what mental state anyone is actually in untill it’s to late so far better to talk to them nicely about a problem than snitching I personally think. You as a FCN advisor should know these issues better than anyone

 

[Sid]

I was a bearer for a close friend who took his own life after being reported for something. You never know what mental state anyone is actually in untill it’s to late so far better to talk to them nicely about a problem than snitching I personally think. You as a FCN advisor should know these issues better than anyone

It wasn't done lightly after consulting various people on the QT. I wish I hadn't know about it tbh!


FYI
FCN don't offer advice, its for signposting options and places of help. Its then up to the people involved to seek that help out.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If you sat on a RT board and you were aware 1st hand of a blantent breach of RT rules. Should you report them?

I don’t sit on the RT board, presumably you do.

 

[Sid]

I don’t sit on the RT board, presumably you do.

Nope was using it as an example

 

[Tarw Coch]

Nope was using it as an example

I don’t understand the point you’re making then, you were on about reporting someone when you were in a position of trust in one post and then implied you were on the RT board in another, I’m confused

 

[An Gof]

I don’t understand the point you’re making then, you were on about reporting someone when you were in a position of trust in one post and then implied you were on the RT board in another, I’m confused

He’s organic, you have to make allowances

 

[Tarw Coch]

He’s organic, you have to make allowances

I’m sure that comment is made in jest but I have a mate who’s organic so that comment is more of a light bulb moment ,

 

[Sid]

I don’t understand the point you’re making then, you were on about reporting someone when you were in a position of trust in one post and then implied you were on the RT board in another, I’m confused

hypothetically

If you personally sat on a RT board and you were aware 1st hand of a blatant breach of RT rules. Would you report them?

OR

If someone you knew sat on the Red Tractor board, Should they report them?

 

[Tarw Coch]

hypothetically

If you personally sat on a RT board and you were aware 1st hand of a blatant breach of RT rules. Would you report them?

OR

If someone you knew sat on the Red Tractor board, Should they report them?

I have no wish to sit on RT board

I don’t know anyone who does sit on RT board

 

[yellowbelly]

Just bumping this thread before it closes.

 

[aangus]

I watched a Harry’s farm vlog yesterday and thought this guy should become the leader of a new farm organisation led by a farmer for farmers, what an intelligent down to earth man that talks a lot of sense

 

[yellowbelly]

So, the final results...........

108 votes.

8.3% of NFU members who voted are happy with the status quo - hardly very encouraging to the NFU, IMHO.

17.6% of NFU members who voted would leave the NFU to join a new organisation.

Only 5.6% of non members who voted would join the NFU to try and reform it.

39.8% of non members would join a new organisation.

9.3% of voters would help to form/run a new organisation.

If there is no major reform of the NFU, 37% of members who voted would leave.


I'm no political commentator but, from the above, I would think that if the NFU don't soon start listening to their members they very soon won't have any members to listen to.

Those 9.3 % had better start thinking of what to call their new organisation.

 

[YorkshireAndrew]

As a tenant we found the NFU to be absolutely NFU to us , my dad always joined it but I soon realised as that ‘small farms’ weren’t of importance to them . We’re now in the TFA which we should have joined years ago .

 

[Clive]

So, the final results...........

108 votes.

8.3% of NFU members who voted are happy with the status quo - hardly very encouraging to the NFU, IMHO.

17.6% of NFU members who voted would leave the NFU to join a new organisation.

Only 5.6% of non members who voted would join the NFU to try and reform it.

39.8% of non members would join a new organisation.

9.3% of voters would help to form/run a new organisation.

If there is no major reform of the NFU, 37% of members who voted would leave.


I'm no political commentator but, from the above, I would think that if the NFU don't soon start listening to their members they very soon won't have any members to listen to.

Those 9.3 % had better start thinking of what to call their new organisation.

it’s pretty clear where it’s going if they don’t start making some pretty major changes

it’s hard to understand why they seem so blind to this, they seem such an arrogant organisation right now, simply can’t not accept a word of criticism it seems

 

[aangus]

it’s pretty clear where it’s going if they don’t start making some pretty major changes

it’s hard to understand why they seem so blind to this, they seem such an arrogant organisation right now, simply can’t not accept a word of criticism it seems

But if you’re a member we (NFU) will get you a discount on your next new pickup